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I kind of always thought RJ intended the minor characters to be bland darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 03/02/2013 12:00:33 AM
When you consider that important plot lines like moiraines return, and rand getting the seancan on his side were treated in a half dozen paragraphs, it seems an extravagant one.

The "clever" uses of gateways were tiring in my opinion.

Sandersons constant resort to a light character figuring a novel way to use a function of the power that already had well defined limits was reminiscent of the Harry Potter series.


It was like a poke in the eye each time it happened again and again.

The relationship stuff between Androl and Pevara I have no problem with. But the fact that Androl has effectively booted longstanding characters like Flinn, Narishma, Grady, Neald and even Logain to the sidelines was problematic.

Vanity by the new author is a good way to describe it.


In fairness to Brandon, while I agree with your analysis of the handling of Androl (who is an awful lot like Kelsier if you think about it) and his pet Red, I also think that his side characters are generally WAY more interesting than RJ's rather bland and sometimes cookie-cutter Darkfriends, who seem to be the only characters that get true side plots when RJ is driving ("true" in that they're fairly disconnected from the heroes throughout). Androl is interesting in a way that Narishma really wasn't. You had to infer an awful lot with Narishma to make him cool. If you were dripping with fan theories and fiction, you probably liked him a lot more than someone like me who ingests only what's in the books.

I'd have liked for RJ to have done more of this Sanderson-style sidetracking, because his own sidetracking always seemed annoying and distracting to me. It never seemed to go anywhere, was not really interesting because of how repetitive it was, and more and more I just started internally moaning at the text and looking expectantly along the page for a main character to crop back up.

But I do agree that Androl and Perava got WAY too much screen-time and had an annoying and unnecessary toolbox full of gimmicks.


He had such a massive cast of characters each of whom played some tiny role in Rands journey to TG. He introduced a handful of 3rd tier folks like Pevara and Yukiri to ensure Ajahs didn't get over stereotyped or Dobraine to show that Cairiehenin could be trust worthy etc... This also seemed like a device to give RJ a grab bag of characters with misc abilities such as shielding talents or traveling talents which saved him from creating someone new should he require a skill. Much easier to give Leanne and a handful of already existing Novices a minor Cuendillar talent than introduce a new group of women just for the one scene showing the rebels making Cuendillar to sell.
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So, am I the only one who kind of liked the whole Androl/Pevara plot? - 31/01/2013 02:30:15 PM 2248 Views
It was extremely irritating... - 31/01/2013 02:34:32 PM 1290 Views
Re: It was extremely irritating... - 31/01/2013 02:47:46 PM 1415 Views
It felt like a plot tacked on as a vanity by Sanderson - 31/01/2013 02:49:09 PM 1070 Views
Indeed... - 31/01/2013 02:58:50 PM 1100 Views
Re: Indeed... - 31/01/2013 03:05:44 PM 1206 Views
I kind of always thought RJ intended the minor characters to be bland - 03/02/2013 12:00:33 AM 920 Views
I'd say more like Mistborn than Harry Potter *NM* - 01/02/2013 02:53:30 PM 489 Views
No I loved it too. *NM* - 31/01/2013 02:43:31 PM 468 Views
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I hated it because it reeked of sanderson pandering to "internet humour" for lack of a better term. - 31/01/2013 04:47:54 PM 1008 Views
Yep. I know what you mean, though it's hard to exactly quantify. - 31/01/2013 04:49:12 PM 970 Views
I could really use an example here - 01/02/2013 02:56:50 PM 953 Views
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Re: He probably didn't have enough time to learn the characters completely - 02/02/2013 04:48:45 PM 1166 Views
Well said... I would have waited for a better end product *NM* - 02/02/2013 05:50:16 PM 469 Views
I 100% agree with everything you said here! *NM* - 01/02/2013 02:16:56 PM 456 Views
Pretty much. But I think significant blame should be laid at Jordan's feet for his abysmal pacing. - 02/02/2013 10:48:06 AM 1028 Views
Yeah, yeah.. it's the f*cking silk washing's scene's fault - 02/02/2013 05:59:30 PM 1301 Views
Damn you are on a roll ... Nicely said. *NM* - 03/02/2013 12:46:57 AM 556 Views
Its true, but RJ should get some blame - 05/02/2013 03:56:20 PM 1017 Views
i enjoyed this subplot - 05/02/2013 05:41:23 PM 1283 Views
Not the only one..I really enjoyed reading their story. *NM* - 01/02/2013 02:05:21 PM 541 Views
It was my favourite subplot *NM* - 01/02/2013 02:17:26 PM 728 Views
I really liked this plot-line! *NM* - 03/02/2013 07:23:48 AM 451 Views
I liked it, but that's because... - 10/02/2013 09:14:44 AM 1097 Views

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