Re: He probably didn't have enough time to learn the characters completely
DomA Send a noteboard - 02/02/2013 04:48:45 PM
Look back how quickly TGS and ToM were completed and published without proper care. We fans and not innocent about this.
LOL. Talk for yourself, maybe. You'll find few hardcore fans willing to shoulder the blame that isn't ours.
I wish apologists like you would stop and finally understand discussing Brandon vs. the projet is one thing, and it's a completely different thing discussing the book's quality and flaws, which should be judged on its own merits, not from the circumstances surrounding the writing.
We all know Brandon made a lot of efforts, had by and large and excellent respect of RJ, worked in difficult and far less than optimal circumstances. Okay, fine. It's said and gone. Few attack Brandon personally. The books remain, and Brandon himself would want us to look at the final result and judge the books, not him or his circumstances.
Most HC fans were most adamant, and very vocal through it all that TJ took all the time they needed to pull it off. We're not responsible for the insane deadlines they placed upon their heads.
Brandon largely isn't either, beside grossly underestimating how much work it represented and signing the contract to deliver the whole within two years. The rest is mostly TJ and Tor and their perception it had to be done as fast as possible, even at the expanse of the quality of the result. It's most obvious with TOM, which they struggled massively to deliver on time, and which was in a terrible state when it was published... badly edited, full of continuity mistakes and language errors, and still in serious need of more editing and polishing.
After TOM, the HC fans were even more adamant to tell TJ they were wholly supportive of them taking as much time as they required to release a better final book. Harriet listened, a bit, or actually slowed down for other reasons. In any case AMOL is already in a much better state than TOM was, and better in that sense than TGS too.
Don't blame fans for the books. It's pathetic. We've got nothing to do with it - it was out of our hands. If TJ chose to cater to the smaller part of the fanbase that was terribly impatient and vocal about it, it's their problem.
This message last edited by DomA on 02/02/2013 at 06:01:49 PM
So, am I the only one who kind of liked the whole Androl/Pevara plot?
31/01/2013 02:30:15 PM
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It was extremely irritating...
31/01/2013 02:34:32 PM
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It felt like a plot tacked on as a vanity by Sanderson
31/01/2013 02:49:09 PM
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Indeed...
31/01/2013 02:58:50 PM
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Re: Indeed...
31/01/2013 03:05:44 PM
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I kind of always thought RJ intended the minor characters to be bland
03/02/2013 12:00:33 AM
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I feel the same about Mat's luck powers. You talk about plot armor, his is a plot bulldozer.
01/02/2013 12:53:58 AM
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You're not the only one who liked it. I thought the mind meld was cool. *NM*
31/01/2013 02:39:48 PM
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I liked it. Most of the whining about is hilarious.
31/01/2013 03:01:10 PM
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I hated it because it reeked of sanderson pandering to "internet humour" for lack of a better term.
31/01/2013 04:47:54 PM
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It wasn't bad. However, it took away time from characters that readers were more invested in. *NM*
31/01/2013 04:52:25 PM
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It was a fairly bad execution of some good ideas
31/01/2013 05:01:59 PM
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That one line characterizes the last two books of WoT generally. *NM*
31/01/2013 08:52:06 PM
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He probably didn't have enough time to learn the characters completely
01/02/2013 01:45:11 PM
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Re: He probably didn't have enough time to learn the characters completely
02/02/2013 04:48:45 PM
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Pretty much. But I think significant blame should be laid at Jordan's feet for his abysmal pacing.
02/02/2013 10:48:06 AM
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Yeah, yeah.. it's the f*cking silk washing's scene's fault
02/02/2013 05:59:30 PM
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Damn you are on a roll ... Nicely said. *NM*
03/02/2013 12:46:57 AM
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Its true, but RJ should get some blame
05/02/2013 03:56:20 PM
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Certainly RJ deserves some of the blame. But pacing issues were not the only issue with AMOL
10/02/2013 02:45:02 PM
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I liked it more than reading about Perrin. And seeing Mat butchered even further. *NM*
03/02/2013 02:28:42 AM
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