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Because her kidnapping was the reason Perrin led his hodge podge army to rescue her, and got trapped Joel Send a noteboard - 19/01/2013 01:00:26 AM
She had absolutely nothing to do with it.

I would not call it her FAULT, per se (she should have better guards than a bunch of fellow adolescent nobles pretending to be nobles, but also had no reason to expect a Shaido attack.) That was, however, the ultimate cause of Perrin and Co. getting trapped by the dreamspike (it was the basis of the plan to so trap them, in fact,) which makes Faile the ultimate cause.
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Somehow, I Actually Hate Faile MORE Now Joel - 14/01/2013 12:16:05 PM 3050 Views
Faile made Perrin less interesting Isaac - 14/01/2013 01:15:22 PM 1065 Views
She paralyzed his character development even when Jordan thought she advanced it. Joel - 14/01/2013 02:38:29 PM 1164 Views
I skipped those chapters during my re-read The Doctor - 14/01/2013 10:36:11 PM 1294 Views
I do not blame you, but that practically means skipping TPoD through KoD. Joel - 15/01/2013 06:16:17 AM 992 Views
Re: She paralyzed his character development even when Jordan thought she advanced it. Zalvera - 15/01/2013 12:39:23 AM 1025 Views
You just hit on probably the major structural weakness of the series with respect to characters. Tom - 15/01/2013 02:54:59 AM 1023 Views
I think this is why I still enjoy Rand as a character so much IndigoAjahV2 - 15/01/2013 03:37:52 AM 968 Views
There were plenty of hard choices, but they might have been handled better. Joel - 15/01/2013 06:58:30 AM 1119 Views
Though I too have wished for them to make really hard choices... Cannoli - 15/01/2013 09:37:34 AM 1068 Views
But they DO make hard choices; they just face relatively few hard consequences. Joel - 15/01/2013 10:08:19 AM 921 Views
Rand certainly flirted with the moral Event Horizon a few times, so did some of the others Isaac - 15/01/2013 10:33:23 AM 1112 Views
Mostly it's because it's clear in RJ's eyes that doing something like the things you suggest is wron IndigoAjahV2 - 15/01/2013 12:41:03 PM 1004 Views
You obviously have a much lower threshold than I do in defining "hard choices". *NM* Tom - 15/01/2013 03:47:52 PM 520 Views
We are introduced to them as they choose between abandoning home w/ a stranger v. staying to die Joel - 15/01/2013 04:46:02 PM 951 Views
Joel, I just said I disagreed with you. I didn't want to debate this series for the sake of debate. *NM* Tom - 15/01/2013 05:43:55 PM 495 Views
Also, how is choosing not to die a hard choice? Tom - 15/01/2013 05:46:46 PM 856 Views
Because they had only a strange witchs word they would die, and leaving w/ her was perilous, too. Joel - 15/01/2013 06:17:16 PM 864 Views
And a trolloc attack Tom - 16/01/2013 02:28:00 PM 863 Views
True, but there was considerable debate about who brought whom. Joel - 16/01/2013 04:41:35 PM 982 Views
Jordan said he put some of himself in all the ta'veren, but its clearly strongest with Perrin. Joel - 15/01/2013 06:27:10 AM 998 Views
I'm glad you have seen the Truth. Tom - 14/01/2013 01:35:36 PM 989 Views
It was neck and neck with her and Min for a long while, but Min finally saw past her own nose. Joel - 14/01/2013 02:09:13 PM 964 Views
I just added a sentence at the end to make the series end properly. Tom - 14/01/2013 10:47:18 PM 1055 Views
Works for me. Joel - 15/01/2013 06:13:16 AM 1995 Views
In all fairness Egwene did in fact pay homage to Bela darius_sedai - 14/01/2013 08:36:40 PM 929 Views
Bela has been there for Egwene all the time. fionwe1987 - 14/01/2013 10:16:22 PM 1143 Views
Egwene and Bela Aes_Gesserit - 15/01/2013 08:13:17 AM 902 Views
I thought Noal was riding Bela... *NM* Tom - 14/01/2013 10:47:56 PM 477 Views
I did, too, at first, but "horse"=/="pony." Joel - 15/01/2013 06:08:03 AM 877 Views
I think she fed her an apple once in TV or somewhere, too, but otherwise she ignored her. Joel - 15/01/2013 06:12:26 AM 1053 Views
Dramatic much? Bella lived a good life in TV and later in Salidar darius_sedai - 20/01/2013 12:54:15 AM 7742 Views
Actually, I never understood why people LOVE that horse so much. She is just a horse! *NM* aragornital - 15/01/2013 07:52:29 AM 542 Views
Pony. She is a pony. A loyal, goodnatured, overperforming and underappreciated pony. Joel - 15/01/2013 08:32:21 AM 1009 Views
honestly a child and a horse and you think the kid should be butchered? darius_sedai - 20/01/2013 12:58:32 AM 999 Views
The whole series is based upon the love of Bela and Narg and her struggle to come to terms with his MightyYT - 16/01/2013 04:01:59 AM 796 Views
The real problem echooff - 15/01/2013 11:30:37 AM 936 Views
Faile will surely domineer someone into pulling Tams carts for him. Joel - 15/01/2013 03:04:35 PM 906 Views
The women in WoT are monsters Sidious - 15/01/2013 11:59:39 AM 1395 Views
I do not consider most of the others all that bad, just idiosyncratic. Joel - 15/01/2013 03:05:51 PM 1191 Views
Oh...I think we know :-) *NM* echooff - 16/01/2013 04:31:18 PM 574 Views
I try to give them, or rather her, the benefit of a doubt. Joel - 16/01/2013 04:48:22 PM 853 Views
Re: Tuon Zalvera - 15/01/2013 03:33:34 PM 1125 Views
I had not noticed that before, but you are right. Joel - 15/01/2013 07:45:53 PM 892 Views
I agree completely... lilltempest - 15/01/2013 05:19:40 PM 1152 Views
Not to argue, but I think RJ created a world where women had the power darius_sedai - 20/01/2013 01:17:11 AM 1004 Views
Agreed ... Nynaeve and Lan are the closest thing to "Healthy" in the series darius_sedai - 20/01/2013 01:09:29 AM 844 Views
Tell me then... Nargs - 18/01/2013 09:08:08 AM 911 Views
That's a fallacious question Tom - 18/01/2013 03:21:56 PM 996 Views
Are you saying... Nargs - 18/01/2013 09:21:34 PM 919 Views
That is a pathetic answer. Tom - 19/01/2013 04:56:13 AM 858 Views
You're a pathetic ass Nargs - 19/01/2013 06:48:47 AM 898 Views
LOL - that's funny, coming from you, one of the most pathetic fanboys around here. *NM* Tom - 19/01/2013 02:32:18 PM 446 Views
Sad for you. *NM* Nargs - 19/01/2013 09:24:59 PM 470 Views
Oh, gosh, this could take a while. Joel - 18/01/2013 05:58:15 PM 949 Views
How exactly was Faile the cause for Hopper's death? Zeratul - 19/01/2013 12:31:55 AM 861 Views
Because her kidnapping was the reason Perrin led his hodge podge army to rescue her, and got trapped Joel - 19/01/2013 01:00:26 AM 786 Views
Her kidnapping... Nargs - 19/01/2013 01:32:40 AM 805 Views
I said outright I do not fault her as a character for that (only Jordan for writing it that way. ) Joel - 19/01/2013 07:35:57 PM 866 Views
No it wasn't ... The dreamspike plot would have happened even had she not been kidnapped darius_sedai - 20/01/2013 01:24:25 AM 832 Views
Exactly Zeratul - 20/01/2013 06:59:33 PM 1104 Views
Wow... Nargs - 19/01/2013 01:49:56 AM 936 Views
Culture is sometimes a reason, but never an excuse. Joel - 19/01/2013 08:04:52 PM 916 Views
Just off color Nargs - 19/01/2013 10:03:58 PM 1026 Views
? Joel - 19/01/2013 10:44:28 PM 909 Views
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