Re: Yet the Dark One told us directly that he had many plans - Edit 1
Before modification by Sidious at 17/01/2013 07:02:53 AM
<Quote>We have zip to prove that Moridin wasn't as much a dupe as the rest of the Forsaken. For all we know Demandred was right and that the DO would just let him reshape the world as he liked. Ultimately it seems to me that the DO seduced people by showing them they kinds of visions Rands saw, only twisted toward their own desires. For Moridin that was oblivion.
In which case maybe none of the Forsaken were duped. If the DO needed generals to rule the world, aeveral of the Forsaken would have made a wise choice. The DO may covet the Pattern and would rather pervert it than destroy it. We don't know,
<Quote>I thought Demandred was a pretty standard fantasy villain to be honest.
He's what a Shadow general is meant to be.
And if he'd shown up with a lame duck force you would have said he was useless too. Some people just can't be pleased.
<Quote>and what I read to be the other male sa'angreal more powerful than Callandor (lame IMO)
We knew from book 2 that Sarkanen may have existed. It was fitting that the Forsaken could amplify their powers if the Aes Sedai could.
Except that you are leaving out critical details. Firstly, all of those men are among the best blademasters alive. Secondly, they all had ter'angreal to negate any direct channeling. Gawyn also had a ter'angreal to make him move at superhuman speeds. And they were still defeated by Demandred. Lan had to sacrifice himself to win. I thought they did a great job showing what a master Demandred was.
Yes but it works both ways. Lets see Graendal win without the Sharan contingent.
In which case maybe none of the Forsaken were duped. If the DO needed generals to rule the world, aeveral of the Forsaken would have made a wise choice. The DO may covet the Pattern and would rather pervert it than destroy it. We don't know,
<Quote>I thought Demandred was a pretty standard fantasy villain to be honest.
He's what a Shadow general is meant to be.
Shows up with an UNSTOPPABLE JUGGERNAUT of an army
And if he'd shown up with a lame duck force you would have said he was useless too. Some people just can't be pleased.
<Quote>and what I read to be the other male sa'angreal more powerful than Callandor (lame IMO)
We knew from book 2 that Sarkanen may have existed. It was fitting that the Forsaken could amplify their powers if the Aes Sedai could.
and kills a bunch of people. Gawyn, Galad and Lan should never have had any chance against a Forsaken ... But I do appreciate how they killed him off without ever having him lay eyes on Rand.
Except that you are leaving out critical details. Firstly, all of those men are among the best blademasters alive. Secondly, they all had ter'angreal to negate any direct channeling. Gawyn also had a ter'angreal to make him move at superhuman speeds. And they were still defeated by Demandred. Lan had to sacrifice himself to win. I thought they did a great job showing what a master Demandred was.
Graendal was the most effective IMO. Without her Demandred wouldn't have been able to do his job.
Yes but it works both ways. Lets see Graendal win without the Sharan contingent.