Re: Yet the Dark One told us directly that he had many plans
Sidious Send a noteboard - 17/01/2013 07:01:14 AM
We have zip to prove that Moridin wasn't as much a dupe as the rest of the Forsaken. For all we know Demandred was right and that the DO would just let him reshape the world as he liked. Ultimately it seems to me that the DO seduced people by showing them they kinds of visions Rands saw, only twisted toward their own desires. For Moridin that was oblivion.
In which case maybe none of the Forsaken were duped. If the DO needed generals to rule the world, several of the Forsaken would have made a wise choice. The DO may covet the Pattern and would rather pervert it than destroy it. We don't know.
I thought Demandred was a pretty standard fantasy villain to be honest.
He's what a Shadow general is meant to be.
Shows up with an UNSTOPPABLE JUGGERNAUT of an army
And if he'd shown up with a lame duck force you would have said he was useless too. Some people just can't be pleased.
and what I read to be the other male sa'angreal more powerful than Callandor (lame IMO)
We knew from book 2 that Sarkanen may have existed. It was fitting that the Forsaken could amplify their powers if the Aes Sedai could.
and kills a bunch of people. Gawyn, Galad and Lan should never have had any chance against a Forsaken ... But I do appreciate how they killed him off without ever having him lay eyes on Rand.
Except that you are leaving out critical details. Firstly, all of those men are among the best blademasters alive. Secondly, they all had ter'angreal to negate any direct channeling. Gawyn also had a ter'angreal to make him move at superhuman speeds. Demandred channeled with the first two but Lan gave him no chance. And they were still defeated by Demandred. Lan had to sacrifice himself to win. I thought they did a great job showing what a master Demandred was.
Graendal was the most effective IMO. Without her Demandred wouldn't have been able to do his job.
Yes but it works both ways. Lets see Graendal win without the Sharan contingent.
Wheel of Time board admin
Fan of Lanfear
Fan of Lanfear
This message last edited by Sidious on 17/01/2013 at 07:06:13 AM
Moridin
- 16/01/2013 03:20:50 AM
1565 Views
I think Moridin was just another dupe of the DO
- 16/01/2013 04:03:47 AM
1114 Views
I disagree somewhat...
- 16/01/2013 08:54:09 AM
1015 Views
Never understood why Moridin didn't just ask someone to balefire him. *NM*
- 16/01/2013 01:41:18 PM
503 Views
It doesn't stop you being respun by the wheel
- 16/01/2013 02:28:31 PM
847 Views
Then just Travel to Tel'aran'rhiod and commit suicide! *NM*
- 16/01/2013 03:20:16 PM
416 Views
But then the DO would bring him back. *NM*
- 16/01/2013 04:08:54 PM
416 Views
Travel into Tel'aran'rhiod and kill yourself with balefire! *NM*
- 17/01/2013 01:12:42 AM
542 Views
You can not touch yourself with your own weaves? *NM*
- 19/01/2013 04:04:28 PM
413 Views
*NM*
Sure you can ... Androl opened up,gateways and blasted dark Asha'man with their own weaves
- 20/01/2013 03:43:01 AM
1114 Views
I also don't really agree
- 16/01/2013 04:50:55 PM
1111 Views
Yet the Dark One told us directly that he had many plans
- 17/01/2013 12:36:09 AM
977 Views
Re: Yet the Dark One told us directly that he had many plans
- 17/01/2013 07:01:14 AM
1021 Views
Demandred and Graendal were the only two effective Forsaken, really.
- 17/01/2013 07:51:49 AM
1002 Views
I am disappointed that we didn't have more on screen time from Demandred
- 17/01/2013 05:00:52 PM
821 Views