Who exactly knew who Moridin was? A lot of shadowspawn and darkfriends knew but they are either all dead or on the run.
Except Perrin is talking to Flynn about him, and it sounds like Perrin already knows who he is before Flynn outright says he doesn't know why Rand would be carrying 'one of the Forsaken'. So, not a big secret at that point. Considering the casual delivery, it doesn't appear to be a state secret, especially considering that if Nyneave or Moraine wanted it hushed up, they needn't tell Flynn and wouldn't have. We thus know that an absolute minimum Perrin, Nyneave, Moraine, and Flynn knew, besides the 3+Cadsuane who knew Rand lived. Perrin and Flynn and Moraine not being trusting souls, I really can't see them taking the disappearance of Moridin casually. LAter after flynn, you've got Loial peeking in on Rand/Moridin while Nyneave is talking about how it is unfair Rand is getting worse while the other gets better with Flynn and Lan, nobody explicitly says Forsaken there but considering Flynn had already mentioned it to Perrin and nobody there reacts to Nyneave complaining about someone else getting better I think it is fair to say the circle of definite-knows isn't just Flynn, Nyneave, Cadsuane, Moraine, and Perrin but the gals but also Lan and Loial, and none of these people act like its a secret. That would really just leave Thom, Tam, and Mat as close survivors of Rands who didn't know about Moridin for sure.
They are not going to be stopping to tell anyone. Aside from that the only others who know are Nynaeve & Moiraine and Nynaeve already suspected something was up and we don't really know what Moiraine knew but she has shown she never ever gives out information unless she has to.
As pointed out, more knew, and Moraine might like her secrets but it is a huge jump to assume she'd decide for no apparent reason not to alert some people if Moridin was suspected to have escaped. She might go to Cadsuane, but only being clued in about Rand would prevent her going further.
I could see some in the inner circle of the light knowing but with Elayne as Commander in Chief with Aviendha backing her up Moridin could be marked as just another injured man, given the scale of the battle there were plenty of those around.
Again, they knew he was a Forsaken.
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This message last edited by Isaac on 15/01/2013 at 10:48:06 AM
So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move....
10/01/2013 04:40:55 AM
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Because, to quote the series...
10/01/2013 05:01:51 AM
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It's not so much about him not telling as cutting loved ones out of his life altogether *NM*
10/01/2013 05:47:14 AM
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I could be wrong, but...
10/01/2013 06:16:02 AM
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Except...
10/01/2013 06:54:04 AM
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Re: Except...
10/01/2013 06:56:43 AM
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That was my interpretation as well. I think it was an attempt at showing Rand's humility. *NM*
10/01/2013 08:17:52 AM
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If the World finds out he's still alive
10/01/2013 08:05:18 AM
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I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends.
10/01/2013 10:56:58 AM
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Re: I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends.
10/01/2013 04:00:57 PM
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Re: I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends.
11/01/2013 02:34:16 AM
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Re: I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends.
13/01/2013 09:01:38 PM
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I got the impression Egwene knew releasing the Source would instantly kill her.
14/01/2013 11:42:03 AM
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Re: I got the impression Egwene knew she was dead the moment she released the Source.
14/01/2013 05:59:21 PM
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Even if she would just have been burned out there was no reason to think it permanent.
14/01/2013 06:49:00 PM
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Where do people get that only Rand was right on the Seals?
14/01/2013 10:03:19 PM
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One point- the DO didn't break free, Rand dragged him out into the Pattern, specifically to kill him
15/01/2013 03:03:43 AM
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Nope..
15/01/2013 03:19:02 AM
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If that were the case Taim certainly would have smashed the seals right away
15/01/2013 08:54:14 AM
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Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move....
10/01/2013 07:13:52 PM
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You don't think Nakomi did it?
10/01/2013 07:54:20 PM
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Maybe
10/01/2013 09:46:39 PM
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Re: Maybe
10/01/2013 11:08:32 PM
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I thought it was largely believed that Nakomi is an avatar of the Creator. *NM*
10/01/2013 11:19:43 PM
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It's one of the dominant theories, not sure it's the one favoured by the majority, but maybe *NM*
10/01/2013 11:55:46 PM
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IDK, I thought the body switch was a side-effect of the link between them
11/01/2013 02:38:33 AM
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*NM* *NM*
11/01/2013 06:51:10 PM
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Re: IDK, I thought the body switch was a side-effect of the link between them
11/01/2013 06:52:29 PM
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Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move....
11/01/2013 12:01:09 AM
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Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move....
11/01/2013 07:45:26 AM
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He realised that both he and LTT were not peace rulers several books ago
11/01/2013 12:25:37 PM
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Re: He realised that both he and LTT were not peace rulers several books ago
11/01/2013 10:39:33 PM
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I've a suspiscion that the Rand scene of Epilogue was probably drafted already
12/01/2013 12:11:13 AM
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Re: I've a suspiscion that the Rand scene of Epilogue was probably drafted already
12/01/2013 12:58:01 PM
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I think you need to re-read that last section
15/01/2013 09:19:41 AM
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I agree. Rand carries a man out of SG who he didn't bring there- logic dictates he is Forsaken *NM*
15/01/2013 12:44:18 PM
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That makes a great deal of sense.
15/01/2013 07:45:55 AM
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Re: That makes a great deal of sense.
15/01/2013 09:37:47 AM
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It is something we just had to expect when Sanderson came in to finish the series.
15/01/2013 11:24:06 AM
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Impossible to say, but I doubt he intended to keep his inner circle perpetually in the dark.
14/01/2013 11:25:47 AM
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Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move....
25/01/2013 03:53:05 PM
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