Re: I got the impression Egwene knew she was dead the moment she released the Source.
lilltempest Send a noteboard - 14/01/2013 05:59:21 PM
It was like, "Might as well do something useful while I still have loads of saidar gushing through me; I am already dead regardless."
She did the reverse balefire thing before she realized the truth of things. To me, it seemed that doing that weave had given her a god complex worse than any we've seen from her thus far, and I think the Pattern had to burn her out or kill her at that point (there were too many comments/examples throughout the series of how wielding too much power can drive people insane and, ultimately, harm the world because of their attitudes, and there were several mentions/examples of that in this book). On page 795:
She clung to the Power she'd held. She had pulled in too muich. She knew that if she released her grip, she would leave herself burned out, unable to channel another drop.
That's when she made the ultimate decision to die, once she realized she was never going to channel again. I don't think she could deal with it, personally. Without channeling - without being able to be the Amyrlin, the "highest authority" (to quote her), and without being able to boss everyone around (and, instead, being a position where she once again might have had to take orders from someone else) - she had no desire to live anymore.
She may have been ego tripping hard, but in the grand scheme, while taking out a Forsaken strength sa'angreal wielding channeler played a pivotal role in the Last Battle (especially since he was throwing column thick balefire at Lightside channelers,) it was fairly trivial.
Agreed. Any other channeler would have been able to take out Taim, possibly quicker than she did. And the patch she put on the damage caused by the balefire would've been taken care of when Rand won. What she did was not meaningless, but it was nowhere near as important as Lan's role (he kicked ASS!!), Mat's role, and Rand's role.
The White Tower may want Thom to write a few sagas about it in High Chant, but everyone else will remember Rand re-sealing the Bore, Lan beheading Demandred with a sword in his gut and Mat winning the Last Battle itself. The Amyrlin Seat just died in one of many battles with the Power, albeit one of the largest. Best of all, she admitted Rand was RIGHT about breaking the Seals, practically with her last breath.
I thought the whole "look for the light" thing was cheesy and stupid, personally. She was dying, and her input was no longer needed (I think Logain could've figured out when to break the seals on his own), but it was typical of Egwene to bark orders at people even with her dying breath.
So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move....
10/01/2013 04:40:55 AM
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Because, to quote the series...
10/01/2013 05:01:51 AM
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It's not so much about him not telling as cutting loved ones out of his life altogether *NM*
10/01/2013 05:47:14 AM
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I could be wrong, but...
10/01/2013 06:16:02 AM
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Except...
10/01/2013 06:54:04 AM
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Re: Except...
10/01/2013 06:56:43 AM
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That was my interpretation as well. I think it was an attempt at showing Rand's humility. *NM*
10/01/2013 08:17:52 AM
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If the World finds out he's still alive
10/01/2013 08:05:18 AM
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I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends.
10/01/2013 10:56:58 AM
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Re: I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends.
10/01/2013 04:00:57 PM
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Re: I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends.
11/01/2013 02:34:16 AM
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Re: I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends.
13/01/2013 09:01:38 PM
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I got the impression Egwene knew releasing the Source would instantly kill her.
14/01/2013 11:42:03 AM
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Re: I got the impression Egwene knew she was dead the moment she released the Source.
14/01/2013 05:59:21 PM
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Even if she would just have been burned out there was no reason to think it permanent.
14/01/2013 06:49:00 PM
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Where do people get that only Rand was right on the Seals?
14/01/2013 10:03:19 PM
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One point- the DO didn't break free, Rand dragged him out into the Pattern, specifically to kill him
15/01/2013 03:03:43 AM
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Nope..
15/01/2013 03:19:02 AM
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If that were the case Taim certainly would have smashed the seals right away
15/01/2013 08:54:14 AM
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Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move....
10/01/2013 07:13:52 PM
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You don't think Nakomi did it?
10/01/2013 07:54:20 PM
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Maybe
10/01/2013 09:46:39 PM
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Re: Maybe
10/01/2013 11:08:32 PM
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I thought it was largely believed that Nakomi is an avatar of the Creator. *NM*
10/01/2013 11:19:43 PM
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It's one of the dominant theories, not sure it's the one favoured by the majority, but maybe *NM*
10/01/2013 11:55:46 PM
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IDK, I thought the body switch was a side-effect of the link between them
11/01/2013 02:38:33 AM
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*NM* *NM*
11/01/2013 06:51:10 PM
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Re: IDK, I thought the body switch was a side-effect of the link between them
11/01/2013 06:52:29 PM
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Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move....
11/01/2013 12:01:09 AM
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Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move....
11/01/2013 07:45:26 AM
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He realised that both he and LTT were not peace rulers several books ago
11/01/2013 12:25:37 PM
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Re: He realised that both he and LTT were not peace rulers several books ago
11/01/2013 10:39:33 PM
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I've a suspiscion that the Rand scene of Epilogue was probably drafted already
12/01/2013 12:11:13 AM
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Re: I've a suspiscion that the Rand scene of Epilogue was probably drafted already
12/01/2013 12:58:01 PM
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I think you need to re-read that last section
15/01/2013 09:19:41 AM
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I agree. Rand carries a man out of SG who he didn't bring there- logic dictates he is Forsaken *NM*
15/01/2013 12:44:18 PM
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That makes a great deal of sense.
15/01/2013 07:45:55 AM
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Re: That makes a great deal of sense.
15/01/2013 09:37:47 AM
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It is something we just had to expect when Sanderson came in to finish the series.
15/01/2013 11:24:06 AM
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Impossible to say, but I doubt he intended to keep his inner circle perpetually in the dark.
14/01/2013 11:25:47 AM
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Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move....
25/01/2013 03:53:05 PM
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