Everytime she is in mortal danger she miraculously escapes at the cost of a character I actually LIKE. With Rolan I could tolerate it a bit because he was a new and minor character, and his unrequited love (or at least desire) could really only go one way once Perrin showed up with his stupid knotted cord to rescue her. Raging protagonist vs. restrained minor character; not hard to anticipate how THAT conflict ends. Sure, that was what made me actively DISLIKE a character who had previously just been annoying (albeit from the very start,) but I could at least understand.
Then she and the rest of Perrins army (and that detestable F--KING AVATARs Knights Templar) were rescued from the dreamspike trap at the cost of Hopper dying AGAIN, this time PERMANENTLY; no rebirth, nothing: Just gone forever and irrevocably.
The final volume was the capper though: Faile "rescues" the Horn by carrying it into the Dark Ones backyard for Mat (who is not even there, as she well knows, and no longer bound to it anyway,) promptly losing it. On recovering the Horn, she entrusts it to a child sent off on sweet, underappreciated and overperforming little Bela, who has carried every helpless "hero" from danger since the series began, with each of them thinking her slow and useless every time. Standard Bela scene, like we have seen ever since Moiraine led her adolescent champions out of the Two Rivers in the first chapters of TEotW—except this time, after saying flat out Bela is faster than racehorses (yet having Olver complain at her one last time,) she is cut down in screaming agony and slaughtered by Trollocs. Faile, of course, is miraculously saved just before death when Perrin happens to find her dreaming her dying self into Tel'aran'rhiod (even though we are repeatedly told throughout the series normal humans rarely go there, and never for more than a few seconds.)
I will give Olver this: He at least shed a few tears and mourned Bela a nanosecond before our fierce fearless little warrior fled into a hole in the ground that offered no concealment since his pursuers could just follow the urine trail left in his wake. That is not much, but more than Siuan ever did (to be fair, she was already dead by then, too,) and Egwene rarely thinks of the sturdy long-suffering mare with whom she grew up and who saved her life just as assuredly as Siuans, Failes and Olvers. Saving Faile was, of course, Belas one fatal mistake, if inevitable in one so loyal. Hopper could have told her that much, except, of course, he never had the chance....
Seriously, did Jordan have any pets? That is, "beloved animal family members" not "vivisection subjects." Faile is like TWoT Wesley Crusher, except the writers not only refuse to kill arguably the least popular Lightsider, even when the narrative calls for it, they torture innocent, loyal and lovable animals to death in her place. By the end of the series I half expected an incidental mention of a passing random coach in the Two Rivers running over Scratch, then hearing the pathetic mewling and backing up to finish the job. When Farstrider appeared astride a horse to save Olver (who is pretty annoying in his own right, and thus inviolate) I faintly hoped it would somehow turn out to be a PONY bound to the Horn, but, no, screw that; she is just some stupid slow mare: Save the homely, lecherous and bratty Aiel-bigot.
At least it made some kind of sense with Hopper, a predator, but what kind of sadistic SOB keeps shoving Bela in front of Shadowspawn?
Really, torturing animals to death is how serial killers start; between this and Aginor I cannot help wondering what (or who) is in Jordans backyard....
Then she and the rest of Perrins army (and that detestable F--KING AVATARs Knights Templar) were rescued from the dreamspike trap at the cost of Hopper dying AGAIN, this time PERMANENTLY; no rebirth, nothing: Just gone forever and irrevocably.
The final volume was the capper though: Faile "rescues" the Horn by carrying it into the Dark Ones backyard for Mat (who is not even there, as she well knows, and no longer bound to it anyway,) promptly losing it. On recovering the Horn, she entrusts it to a child sent off on sweet, underappreciated and overperforming little Bela, who has carried every helpless "hero" from danger since the series began, with each of them thinking her slow and useless every time. Standard Bela scene, like we have seen ever since Moiraine led her adolescent champions out of the Two Rivers in the first chapters of TEotW—except this time, after saying flat out Bela is faster than racehorses (yet having Olver complain at her one last time,) she is cut down in screaming agony and slaughtered by Trollocs. Faile, of course, is miraculously saved just before death when Perrin happens to find her dreaming her dying self into Tel'aran'rhiod (even though we are repeatedly told throughout the series normal humans rarely go there, and never for more than a few seconds.)
I will give Olver this: He at least shed a few tears and mourned Bela a nanosecond before our fierce fearless little warrior fled into a hole in the ground that offered no concealment since his pursuers could just follow the urine trail left in his wake. That is not much, but more than Siuan ever did (to be fair, she was already dead by then, too,) and Egwene rarely thinks of the sturdy long-suffering mare with whom she grew up and who saved her life just as assuredly as Siuans, Failes and Olvers. Saving Faile was, of course, Belas one fatal mistake, if inevitable in one so loyal. Hopper could have told her that much, except, of course, he never had the chance....
Seriously, did Jordan have any pets? That is, "beloved animal family members" not "vivisection subjects." Faile is like TWoT Wesley Crusher, except the writers not only refuse to kill arguably the least popular Lightsider, even when the narrative calls for it, they torture innocent, loyal and lovable animals to death in her place. By the end of the series I half expected an incidental mention of a passing random coach in the Two Rivers running over Scratch, then hearing the pathetic mewling and backing up to finish the job. When Farstrider appeared astride a horse to save Olver (who is pretty annoying in his own right, and thus inviolate) I faintly hoped it would somehow turn out to be a PONY bound to the Horn, but, no, screw that; she is just some stupid slow mare: Save the homely, lecherous and bratty Aiel-bigot.
At least it made some kind of sense with Hopper, a predator, but what kind of sadistic SOB keeps shoving Bela in front of Shadowspawn?
Really, torturing animals to death is how serial killers start; between this and Aginor I cannot help wondering what (or who) is in Jordans backyard....
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Slightly better than chocolate.
Love still can't be coerced.
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LoL. Be well, RAFOlk.
Last First in wotmania Chat
Slightly better than chocolate.
Love still can't be coerced.
Please Don't Eat the Newbies!
LoL. Be well, RAFOlk.
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Somehow, I Actually Hate Faile MORE Now
14/01/2013 12:16:05 PM
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Faile made Perrin less interesting
14/01/2013 01:15:22 PM
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She paralyzed his character development even when Jordan thought she advanced it.
14/01/2013 02:38:29 PM
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I skipped those chapters during my re-read
14/01/2013 10:36:11 PM
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I do not blame you, but that practically means skipping TPoD through KoD.
15/01/2013 06:16:17 AM
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Re: She paralyzed his character development even when Jordan thought she advanced it.
15/01/2013 12:39:23 AM
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You just hit on probably the major structural weakness of the series with respect to characters.
15/01/2013 02:54:59 AM
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There were plenty of hard choices, but they might have been handled better.
15/01/2013 06:58:30 AM
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Though I too have wished for them to make really hard choices...
15/01/2013 09:37:34 AM
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But they DO make hard choices; they just face relatively few hard consequences.
15/01/2013 10:08:19 AM
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Rand certainly flirted with the moral Event Horizon a few times, so did some of the others
15/01/2013 10:33:23 AM
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Mostly it's because it's clear in RJ's eyes that doing something like the things you suggest is wron
15/01/2013 12:41:03 PM
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You obviously have a much lower threshold than I do in defining "hard choices". *NM*
15/01/2013 03:47:52 PM
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We are introduced to them as they choose between abandoning home w/ a stranger v. staying to die
15/01/2013 04:46:02 PM
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Joel, I just said I disagreed with you. I didn't want to debate this series for the sake of debate. *NM*
15/01/2013 05:43:55 PM
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Also, how is choosing not to die a hard choice?
15/01/2013 05:46:46 PM
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Because they had only a strange witchs word they would die, and leaving w/ her was perilous, too.
15/01/2013 06:17:16 PM
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Jordan said he put some of himself in all the ta'veren, but its clearly strongest with Perrin.
15/01/2013 06:27:10 AM
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I'm glad you have seen the Truth.
14/01/2013 01:35:36 PM
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It was neck and neck with her and Min for a long while, but Min finally saw past her own nose.
14/01/2013 02:09:13 PM
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I just added a sentence at the end to make the series end properly.
14/01/2013 10:47:18 PM
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In all fairness Egwene did in fact pay homage to Bela
14/01/2013 08:36:40 PM
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I think she fed her an apple once in TV or somewhere, too, but otherwise she ignored her.
15/01/2013 06:12:26 AM
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Dramatic much? Bella lived a good life in TV and later in Salidar
20/01/2013 12:54:15 AM
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Actually, I never understood why people LOVE that horse so much. She is just a horse! *NM*
15/01/2013 07:52:29 AM
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Pony. She is a pony. A loyal, goodnatured, overperforming and underappreciated pony.
15/01/2013 08:32:21 AM
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honestly a child and a horse and you think the kid should be butchered?
20/01/2013 12:58:32 AM
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The whole series is based upon the love of Bela and Narg and her struggle to come to terms with his
16/01/2013 04:01:59 AM
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The real problem
15/01/2013 11:30:37 AM
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Faile will surely domineer someone into pulling Tams carts for him.
15/01/2013 03:04:35 PM
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The women in WoT are monsters
15/01/2013 11:59:39 AM
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I do not consider most of the others all that bad, just idiosyncratic.
15/01/2013 03:05:51 PM
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I agree completely...
15/01/2013 05:19:40 PM
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Not to argue, but I think RJ created a world where women had the power
20/01/2013 01:17:11 AM
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Agreed ... Nynaeve and Lan are the closest thing to "Healthy" in the series
20/01/2013 01:09:29 AM
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Tell me then...
18/01/2013 09:08:08 AM
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That's a fallacious question
18/01/2013 03:21:56 PM
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Are you saying...
18/01/2013 09:21:34 PM
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That is a pathetic answer.
19/01/2013 04:56:13 AM
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You're a pathetic ass
19/01/2013 06:48:47 AM
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LOL - that's funny, coming from you, one of the most pathetic fanboys around here. *NM*
19/01/2013 02:32:18 PM
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Oh, gosh, this could take a while.
18/01/2013 05:58:15 PM
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How exactly was Faile the cause for Hopper's death?
19/01/2013 12:31:55 AM
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Because her kidnapping was the reason Perrin led his hodge podge army to rescue her, and got trapped
19/01/2013 01:00:26 AM
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Her kidnapping...
19/01/2013 01:32:40 AM
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I said outright I do not fault her as a character for that (only Jordan for writing it that way. )
19/01/2013 07:35:57 PM
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No it wasn't ... The dreamspike plot would have happened even had she not been kidnapped
20/01/2013 01:24:25 AM
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Wow...
19/01/2013 01:49:56 AM
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