...on Rand's part?
In the first place, he appears to have anticipated his survival, as the first thing he does upon awakening is observe that Alivia did her job in providing him with exit support. How was that arranged beforehand?
"Hey, Alivia buddy, there's a chance I might live through this
In the first place, he appears to have anticipated his survival, as the first thing he does upon awakening is observe that Alivia did her job in providing him with exit support. How was that arranged beforehand?
"Hey, Alivia buddy, there's a chance I might live through this
Pretty much.
I was set up with that scene where Cadsuane (Or was it Moiraine, I forget which) tells Rand he shouldn't go to the battle taking his death for granted.
He did listen, and planned something. And yeah, it was to vanish, in disguise (inverted MoM) with as few people as possible aside from his three women and Alivia knowing.
He didn't foresee the Moridin solution, that "of course" moment came as he exited SG. "Of course, I didn't understand but now I do.. I need not vanish, I need to fake my death".
I'm pretty sure he did like the pipe: he thought himself as Moridin, and thought Moridin as "Rand"... and it happened.
When he stumbles out of SG, slipping on blood, I figured he was still in Rand's body. But then he glances up at a gray-haired Aiel-garbed woman who no one else ever mentions. She kneels besides the two bodies after Rand trips and says "Yes, that's good. That is what you need to do." Sounds a lot like Nakomi to me, and that she either swapped or helped Rand to swap bodies right then.
He seems surprised after he wakes up that his wounds are healed and his hand back. Or maybe he doesn't...? "Shouldn't he be hurting? … For the first time in a long while, there was no pain. He almost didn't know what to make of it." ALMOST didn't know. So maybe it wasn't planned, but he also has a pretty good idea what happened? Hard to say, but I am just glad that the body swap was not part of the plan to trick the Dark One. Still not sure how I feel about the True Power being used against Shai'tan, but the book does make abundantly clear that Shai'tan is a necessary force for reality and freedom, for choice, so maybe the True Power is not inherently evil. It is destruction. And pure destruction mixed with pure creation (pure saidin and saidar) was the only way to reforge reality.
I have to say I was definitely totally faked out by Shaisam. I definitely thought for a moment that Shaisam and Shai'tan were going to somehow unite in a yin yang way like saidar and saidin.
So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move....
10/01/2013 04:40:55 AM
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Because, to quote the series...
10/01/2013 05:01:51 AM
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It's not so much about him not telling as cutting loved ones out of his life altogether *NM*
10/01/2013 05:47:14 AM
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I could be wrong, but...
10/01/2013 06:16:02 AM
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Except...
10/01/2013 06:54:04 AM
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Re: Except...
10/01/2013 06:56:43 AM
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That was my interpretation as well. I think it was an attempt at showing Rand's humility. *NM*
10/01/2013 08:17:52 AM
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If the World finds out he's still alive
10/01/2013 08:05:18 AM
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I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends.
10/01/2013 10:56:58 AM
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Re: I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends.
10/01/2013 04:00:57 PM
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Re: I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends.
11/01/2013 02:34:16 AM
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Re: I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends.
13/01/2013 09:01:38 PM
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I got the impression Egwene knew releasing the Source would instantly kill her.
14/01/2013 11:42:03 AM
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Re: I got the impression Egwene knew she was dead the moment she released the Source.
14/01/2013 05:59:21 PM
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Even if she would just have been burned out there was no reason to think it permanent.
14/01/2013 06:49:00 PM
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Where do people get that only Rand was right on the Seals?
14/01/2013 10:03:19 PM
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One point- the DO didn't break free, Rand dragged him out into the Pattern, specifically to kill him
15/01/2013 03:03:43 AM
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Nope..
15/01/2013 03:19:02 AM
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If that were the case Taim certainly would have smashed the seals right away
15/01/2013 08:54:14 AM
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Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move....
10/01/2013 07:13:52 PM
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You don't think Nakomi did it?
10/01/2013 07:54:20 PM
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Maybe
10/01/2013 09:46:39 PM
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Re: Maybe
10/01/2013 11:08:32 PM
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I thought it was largely believed that Nakomi is an avatar of the Creator. *NM*
10/01/2013 11:19:43 PM
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It's one of the dominant theories, not sure it's the one favoured by the majority, but maybe *NM*
10/01/2013 11:55:46 PM
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IDK, I thought the body switch was a side-effect of the link between them
11/01/2013 02:38:33 AM
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*NM* *NM*
11/01/2013 06:51:10 PM
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Re: IDK, I thought the body switch was a side-effect of the link between them
11/01/2013 06:52:29 PM
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Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move....
11/01/2013 12:01:09 AM
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11/01/2013 07:45:26 AM
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He realised that both he and LTT were not peace rulers several books ago
11/01/2013 12:25:37 PM
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11/01/2013 10:39:33 PM
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I've a suspiscion that the Rand scene of Epilogue was probably drafted already
12/01/2013 12:11:13 AM
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12/01/2013 12:58:01 PM
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I think you need to re-read that last section
15/01/2013 09:19:41 AM
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I agree. Rand carries a man out of SG who he didn't bring there- logic dictates he is Forsaken *NM*
15/01/2013 12:44:18 PM
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That makes a great deal of sense.
15/01/2013 07:45:55 AM
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Re: That makes a great deal of sense.
15/01/2013 09:37:47 AM
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It is something we just had to expect when Sanderson came in to finish the series.
15/01/2013 11:24:06 AM
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Impossible to say, but I doubt he intended to keep his inner circle perpetually in the dark.
14/01/2013 11:25:47 AM
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25/01/2013 03:53:05 PM
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