I don't fault Rand for any of it, at the moment....
lilltempest Send a noteboard - 10/01/2013 04:49:25 PM
But i am choosing to believe that Rand has to fake his death for the contract and his own life to be worth living and this must be as realistic and widespread a deception as possible to work- Mat and Perrin are both compromised. Arguably so are the 3 wenches though Rand can't do much there. All his loved ones have roles in fixing the land after TG and are leaders- Rand, as he realised towards the end of the series, is not a Peace Time leader, needs to "stay dead" an frankly deserves the break. Then after things have cooled down a bit I believe Rand will visit all his most loved ones, including the PowerTrio and Tam and Nynaeve for reasons stated above. But in all probability we'll never know, which is probably deliberate and something I am fine with. The book specifically states this is "an ending" and life will go on. We just won't get to watch. And just because Rand doesn't tell us these plans or thoughts doesn't mean he doesn't have them- people have messed up making that assumption before. Rand keeps his plans secret even from the reader throughout the entire series
I'm just saying it could've been written better and gotten him to the same place in a more satisfactory manner. He deserved a happy ending, more than anyone else in the series, so I'm glad he got a fresh start. I think it was a dick move on the three wenches' parts not to tell Nyn or Tam the truth. They can keep their mouths shut, and they are the ones who actually care the most. I just resent the fact that those three harridans (and yes, I include Min in that now, despite the fact that I used to like her much better than those other two, who I can hardly stomach anymore) know Rand is okay while Nyn and Tam do not (when Nyn and Tam care exponentially more about Rand and his happiness).
As for the accusation that Rand is somehow a jerk for walking away from those three wenches, I think that's crap. They have no use for him and there is no place for him in their lives other than to be passed around like a vibrator. He should've been freed from them completely, with the bond snapping on their end or dissolving when he switched bodies, so he could truly have a fresh start. Out of the three of them, Min is the most likely to believe him alive and try to find him. I doubt the other two care, and don't see them even allowing him to have a hand in his childrens' lives. That kind of fits how they are, especially Elayne.
So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move....
10/01/2013 04:40:55 AM
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Because, to quote the series...
10/01/2013 05:01:51 AM
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It's not so much about him not telling as cutting loved ones out of his life altogether *NM*
10/01/2013 05:47:14 AM
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I could be wrong, but...
10/01/2013 06:16:02 AM
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Except...
10/01/2013 06:54:04 AM
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Re: Except...
10/01/2013 06:56:43 AM
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That was my interpretation as well. I think it was an attempt at showing Rand's humility. *NM*
10/01/2013 08:17:52 AM
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If the World finds out he's still alive
10/01/2013 08:05:18 AM
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I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends.
10/01/2013 10:56:58 AM
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Re: I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends.
10/01/2013 04:00:57 PM
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This is because I tend to assume the best in Rand
10/01/2013 04:28:20 PM
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I don't fault Rand for any of it, at the moment....
10/01/2013 04:49:25 PM
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Re: I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends.
11/01/2013 02:34:16 AM
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Re: I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends.
13/01/2013 09:01:38 PM
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I got the impression Egwene knew releasing the Source would instantly kill her.
14/01/2013 11:42:03 AM
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Re: I got the impression Egwene knew she was dead the moment she released the Source.
14/01/2013 05:59:21 PM
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Even if she would just have been burned out there was no reason to think it permanent.
14/01/2013 06:49:00 PM
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Where do people get that only Rand was right on the Seals?
14/01/2013 10:03:19 PM
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One point- the DO didn't break free, Rand dragged him out into the Pattern, specifically to kill him
15/01/2013 03:03:43 AM
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Nope..
15/01/2013 03:19:02 AM
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If that were the case Taim certainly would have smashed the seals right away
15/01/2013 08:54:14 AM
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Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move....
10/01/2013 07:13:52 PM
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You don't think Nakomi did it?
10/01/2013 07:54:20 PM
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Maybe
10/01/2013 09:46:39 PM
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Re: Maybe
10/01/2013 11:08:32 PM
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I thought it was largely believed that Nakomi is an avatar of the Creator. *NM*
10/01/2013 11:19:43 PM
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It's one of the dominant theories, not sure it's the one favoured by the majority, but maybe *NM*
10/01/2013 11:55:46 PM
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IDK, I thought the body switch was a side-effect of the link between them
11/01/2013 02:38:33 AM
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*NM* *NM*
11/01/2013 06:51:10 PM
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Re: IDK, I thought the body switch was a side-effect of the link between them
11/01/2013 06:52:29 PM
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Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move....
11/01/2013 12:01:09 AM
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Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move....
11/01/2013 07:45:26 AM
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He realised that both he and LTT were not peace rulers several books ago
11/01/2013 12:25:37 PM
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Re: He realised that both he and LTT were not peace rulers several books ago
11/01/2013 10:39:33 PM
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I've a suspiscion that the Rand scene of Epilogue was probably drafted already
12/01/2013 12:11:13 AM
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Re: I've a suspiscion that the Rand scene of Epilogue was probably drafted already
12/01/2013 12:58:01 PM
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I think you need to re-read that last section
15/01/2013 09:19:41 AM
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I agree. Rand carries a man out of SG who he didn't bring there- logic dictates he is Forsaken *NM*
15/01/2013 12:44:18 PM
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That makes a great deal of sense.
15/01/2013 07:45:55 AM
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Re: That makes a great deal of sense.
15/01/2013 09:37:47 AM
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It is something we just had to expect when Sanderson came in to finish the series.
15/01/2013 11:24:06 AM
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Impossible to say, but I doubt he intended to keep his inner circle perpetually in the dark.
14/01/2013 11:25:47 AM
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25/01/2013 03:53:05 PM
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