Re: I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends.
lilltempest Send a noteboard - 10/01/2013 04:00:57 PM
Does the Dragon's Peace account for anything? The contract was for his life, and some of the signees
May well be looking for an excuse to break it already (like Tuon, married to Matt). It may well be that the fewer people that know he's alive the better for the World, not just for himself
May well be looking for an excuse to break it already (like Tuon, married to Matt). It may well be that the fewer people that know he's alive the better for the World, not just for himself
I can see that, but since three of his loved ones having a generally noted "Meh" attitude towards his 'death' isn't bringing everything down, would it hurt to let Tam & Nynaeve in on it?
I did not like the fact that Nyn and Tam (the two who actually care the most, out of everyone who knows him) were not told. It would have made more sense if the bonds had snapped, leaving the three women to believe him dead (Min, at least, might have shed a tear or two, even if the other two are incapable of such emotion or caring), with Nynaeve aware that he was alive (perhaps via delving, she could've noted something "different" about "Moridin" and gotten Alivia to help him escape, knowing that his life may be in danger from that psycho Forotuona and others who wanted him to die, like everyone at the WT). It would've made a nice twist on Nyn healing someone "three days dead" while merging the vision that Alivia would help Rand die. It also would've freed him from his women. Nyn would've told Tam, I'm sure - she has too much compassion not to do so - but she would've accepted that she could not tell the three stooges and, upon seeing their non-reaction, she would have confirmed it was the correct thing to do.
What bothers me as much as any of this is that Nynaeve, and to a lesser extent, Perrin, are the only two of that whole lot with a heart. I can get the three stooges not crying, given that they know Rand is alive, but Egwene is dead (who was supposedly Elayne and Avi's bestest friend in the whole wide world, and since everyone was supposedly enamored of her greatness, even Min should've felt something over the loss), Gawyn is dead (did Elayne forget that he was the only brother she had that she doesn't despise??)...yet the only person shedding tears for those lost is Nyn? I should've known she was the only one with a heart. Perrin, at least, offered her comfort and shed a few tears himself, and that shows that the man has a heart as well. But the rest of them? A bunch of cold fish. Nyn needs to extricate herself from the lot of them, save Perrin, before they end up rubbing off on her and leaving her an emotionless asshole just like them.
By the way, this book made me dislike Mat, who had been one of my favorite males for a long time. Thanks a lot, BS.
So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move....
10/01/2013 04:40:55 AM
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Because, to quote the series...
10/01/2013 05:01:51 AM
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It's not so much about him not telling as cutting loved ones out of his life altogether *NM*
10/01/2013 05:47:14 AM
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I could be wrong, but...
10/01/2013 06:16:02 AM
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Except...
10/01/2013 06:54:04 AM
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Re: Except...
10/01/2013 06:56:43 AM
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That was my interpretation as well. I think it was an attempt at showing Rand's humility. *NM*
10/01/2013 08:17:52 AM
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If the World finds out he's still alive
10/01/2013 08:05:18 AM
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I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends.
10/01/2013 10:56:58 AM
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Re: I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends.
10/01/2013 04:00:57 PM
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Re: I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends.
11/01/2013 02:34:16 AM
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Re: I can agree with keeping it secret from just about everyone, BUT his father and closest friends.
13/01/2013 09:01:38 PM
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I got the impression Egwene knew releasing the Source would instantly kill her.
14/01/2013 11:42:03 AM
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Re: I got the impression Egwene knew she was dead the moment she released the Source.
14/01/2013 05:59:21 PM
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Even if she would just have been burned out there was no reason to think it permanent.
14/01/2013 06:49:00 PM
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Where do people get that only Rand was right on the Seals?
14/01/2013 10:03:19 PM
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One point- the DO didn't break free, Rand dragged him out into the Pattern, specifically to kill him
15/01/2013 03:03:43 AM
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Nope..
15/01/2013 03:19:02 AM
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If that were the case Taim certainly would have smashed the seals right away
15/01/2013 08:54:14 AM
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Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move....
10/01/2013 07:13:52 PM
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You don't think Nakomi did it?
10/01/2013 07:54:20 PM
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Maybe
10/01/2013 09:46:39 PM
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Re: Maybe
10/01/2013 11:08:32 PM
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I thought it was largely believed that Nakomi is an avatar of the Creator. *NM*
10/01/2013 11:19:43 PM
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It's one of the dominant theories, not sure it's the one favoured by the majority, but maybe *NM*
10/01/2013 11:55:46 PM
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IDK, I thought the body switch was a side-effect of the link between them
11/01/2013 02:38:33 AM
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*NM* *NM*
11/01/2013 06:51:10 PM
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Re: IDK, I thought the body switch was a side-effect of the link between them
11/01/2013 06:52:29 PM
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Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move....
11/01/2013 12:01:09 AM
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Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move....
11/01/2013 07:45:26 AM
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He realised that both he and LTT were not peace rulers several books ago
11/01/2013 12:25:37 PM
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Re: He realised that both he and LTT were not peace rulers several books ago
11/01/2013 10:39:33 PM
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I've a suspiscion that the Rand scene of Epilogue was probably drafted already
12/01/2013 12:11:13 AM
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Re: I've a suspiscion that the Rand scene of Epilogue was probably drafted already
12/01/2013 12:58:01 PM
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I think you need to re-read that last section
15/01/2013 09:19:41 AM
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I agree. Rand carries a man out of SG who he didn't bring there- logic dictates he is Forsaken *NM*
15/01/2013 12:44:18 PM
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That makes a great deal of sense.
15/01/2013 07:45:55 AM
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Re: That makes a great deal of sense.
15/01/2013 09:37:47 AM
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It is something we just had to expect when Sanderson came in to finish the series.
15/01/2013 11:24:06 AM
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Impossible to say, but I doubt he intended to keep his inner circle perpetually in the dark.
14/01/2013 11:25:47 AM
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Re: So, is anyone else thinking that ending was a bit of a dick move....
25/01/2013 03:53:05 PM
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