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Probably darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 08/12/2012 02:46:15 PM
I don't think someone somewhat weaker than the Foresaken needs MUCH more skill than the Foresaken to threaten them. Such a person doesn't even need more skill at all. If your skill is Foresaken level, and you're not much weaker, you're a threat. Will the stronger Foresaken have an advantage? Obviously. Will they simply be able to overwhelm you? No.

For example, I don't think Egwene is currently more skillful than the Foresaken. But in a head on duel, she's going to be a challenge to face, and its probably the greater knowledge of the Foresaken that will save the day, not their extra skill.


Although I'd say knowledge and skill amount to the same thing here. The point being Egwene has enough of a strength and skill combination to not be easy meat, but in the end the stronger, more experienced Channeler is going to win out. The only way someone like Egwene poses a threat to one of the Forsaken (angreal etc aside) is is they have significantly more skill/knowledge to fall back on. I think Cadsuane level could be a threat with enough skill, hard to say if Moiraine's level could stand a chance though. I'm inclined to say not against someone with the skill of the Forsaken, but against someone like Alivia probably.
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I really hate to bring up strength in the OP, but thankfully it doesn't regard Egwene or any women. DREWRULESWOT! - 04/12/2012 06:01:45 AM 1737 Views
My thoughts Sidious - 04/12/2012 07:15:44 AM 1149 Views
90 is REALLY high DREWRULESWOT! - 04/12/2012 07:25:15 AM 1109 Views
Couple of things ... **reminder that this is a lot of speculation** darius_sedai - 04/12/2012 04:29:50 PM 1063 Views
Narishma is definitely stronger, you're right. DREWRULESWOT! - 07/12/2012 03:00:53 AM 1004 Views
He was stronger than Aginor in order to channel the power of the Eye darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 03:00:10 PM 972 Views
No I don't think so Sidious - 07/12/2012 04:13:48 PM 869 Views
I'd say more than 80 darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 07:07:32 PM 832 Views
81 then Sidious - 07/12/2012 08:11:34 PM 762 Views
and that's just YOUR theory Sidius darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 09:13:42 PM 849 Views
Re: and that's just YOUR theory Sidius Sidious - 07/12/2012 10:14:53 PM 867 Views
there were more like MILLIONS of Forsaken during these times darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 10:30:34 PM 841 Views
Re: and that's just YOUR theory Sidius RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2012 08:44:51 PM 662 Views
Aginors defeat could be a result of multiple factors. So can Ishmaels Onarishma - 07/12/2012 01:24:18 PM 892 Views
Regardless, Rand was clearly in the same strength category when Aginor and he faced off darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 03:03:04 PM 844 Views
I disagree. Onarishma - 07/12/2012 06:55:43 PM 778 Views
Aginor burned out trying to use the Eye in the real world darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 07:12:44 PM 799 Views
Re: Aginor burned out trying to use the Eye in the real world Onarishma - 07/12/2012 07:51:37 PM 793 Views
he faced Asmodean strength for strength before Rahvin darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 09:23:42 PM 866 Views
Just to be a bitch Sidious - 07/12/2012 10:17:11 PM 733 Views
you don't actually have to tell us all you are a bitch darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 10:36:25 PM 907 Views
*NM* Sidious - 08/12/2012 06:22:49 AM 725 Views
He didn't face Asmodean he chased him and wrestled him over a sa'angreal. Onarishma - 10/12/2012 11:16:18 PM 914 Views
Asmo hurled plenty of stuff at Rand during the "Chase" it wasnt all that much different darius_sedai - 11/12/2012 03:16:36 AM 798 Views
I disagree with your plenty cause no one was TRYING to crush him. *NM* Onarishma - 11/12/2012 07:13:12 PM 498 Views
as I said before ... your interpretations are yours to have ... as are mine. *NM* darius_sedai - 11/12/2012 09:16:36 PM 412 Views
think youre misjudgjng the benefits of the link. they dont have to add up to 90. Onarishma - 07/12/2012 12:34:59 PM 828 Views
There is also no why to tell if Flinn hit Demandred with all the strength available to him either darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 03:05:38 PM 832 Views
the "circle" was stronger but the individuals weren't *NM* Onarishma - 07/12/2012 06:58:38 PM 529 Views
that's what I just said *NM* darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 07:23:34 PM 453 Views
that was not clear *NM* Onarishma - 07/12/2012 07:43:54 PM 548 Views
*shrug* darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 09:25:00 PM 732 Views
Re: *shrug* Onarishma - 10/12/2012 11:27:42 PM 828 Views
If I had said the individuals in the circle added to Dmandreds strength perhaps darius_sedai - 11/12/2012 03:28:23 AM 872 Views
in the context of this discussion you did not distinguish between the effective strength and Onarishma - 11/12/2012 07:10:48 PM 777 Views
whatever ... didn't think it was necessary ... and with that I'm done darius_sedai - 11/12/2012 09:16:03 PM 761 Views
Onarishma - 17/12/2012 11:22:55 PM 1029 Views
About Rand's strength... an important quote is being ignored: fionwe1987 - 08/12/2012 12:37:38 AM 975 Views
Perhaps darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 01:01:21 AM 810 Views
Re: Perhaps fionwe1987 - 08/12/2012 02:06:39 AM 866 Views
Like I said ... Could be darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 02:33:43 AM 856 Views
I disagree... fionwe1987 - 08/12/2012 04:53:09 AM 772 Views
Re: I disagree... darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 05:20:08 AM 724 Views
I disagree again! fionwe1987 - 08/12/2012 05:49:15 AM 815 Views
Probably darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 02:46:15 PM 841 Views
Re: Probably fionwe1987 - 09/12/2012 07:51:59 PM 837 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 09/12/2012 10:13:07 PM 764 Views
Re: Not really fionwe1987 - 10/12/2012 01:05:54 AM 774 Views
Re: Not really darius_sedai - 13/12/2012 03:58:48 PM 858 Views
I don't think the Forsaken are good examples Sidious - 08/12/2012 06:18:45 AM 833 Views
We're essentially saying the same thing now darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 02:37:17 PM 757 Views
Re: I don't think the Forsaken are good examples RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2012 08:08:21 PM 728 Views
Always thought the forsaken didn't really know much about Rand TheCrownless - 08/12/2012 02:38:08 AM 793 Views
And they had plenty of spies around him and clearly knew that he managed darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 02:43:15 AM 804 Views
Re: And they had plenty of spies around him and clearly knew that he managed TheCrownless - 08/12/2012 05:34:54 AM 789 Views
Who can say. Graendal wraps them so deep in compulsion that she can dig darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 05:42:39 AM 836 Views
I don't think they could have had a clear idea of his strength eary in the series... Narg - 08/12/2012 09:34:36 AM 940 Views
Re: I don't think they could have had a clear idea of his strength eary in the series... darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 02:54:08 PM 768 Views
Oops, double post. *NM* Narg - 08/12/2012 09:34:36 AM 531 Views
Re: About Rand's strength... an important quote is being ignored: Dunstan - 11/12/2012 11:36:51 PM 812 Views
Re: Rand v Aginor Watcher - 16/12/2012 01:46:08 PM 788 Views
Not a bad theory and I've read it before darius_sedai - 16/12/2012 07:42:31 PM 744 Views
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