Asmodean is further proof that your theory on Forsaken skill is unconvincing. Much like Moghedien/Nynaeve, Rand overwhelmed Asmodean despite having the same strength and no training.
that is a joke to be clear!
Asmodean and Moghedien are clearly the least skilled of the Forsaken ... or perhaps just the laziest ... and RJ made some very bad choices in this part of the series ... IMO it's these two examples that are the primary reason the Forsaken as a whole seem so silly. Here we have people who are supposed to be the among the most skilled people of the Age and they don't even try to do anything interesting ... epic fail IMO. But in RJs defense, he needed to illustrate how strong Rand and Nynaeve are and he couldn't very well have them get their asses handed to them by a Forsaken!
I think the Cleansing scene with Cyndane/Alivia was an attempt to make up for that a bit.
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This message last edited by Sidious on 08/12/2012 at 06:23:01 AM
I really hate to bring up strength in the OP, but thankfully it doesn't regard Egwene or any women.
- 04/12/2012 06:01:45 AM
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My thoughts
- 04/12/2012 07:15:44 AM
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90 is REALLY high
- 04/12/2012 07:25:15 AM
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Couple of things ... **reminder that this is a lot of speculation**
- 04/12/2012 04:29:50 PM
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Narishma is definitely stronger, you're right.
- 07/12/2012 03:00:53 AM
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He was stronger than Aginor in order to channel the power of the Eye
- 07/12/2012 03:00:10 PM
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No I don't think so
- 07/12/2012 04:13:48 PM
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I'd say more than 80
- 07/12/2012 07:07:32 PM
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81 then
- 07/12/2012 08:11:34 PM
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and that's just YOUR theory Sidius 
- 07/12/2012 09:13:42 PM
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- 07/12/2012 09:13:42 PM
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Aginors defeat could be a result of multiple factors. So can Ishmaels
- 07/12/2012 01:24:18 PM
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Regardless, Rand was clearly in the same strength category when Aginor and he faced off
- 07/12/2012 03:03:04 PM
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I disagree.
- 07/12/2012 06:55:43 PM
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Aginor burned out trying to use the Eye in the real world
- 07/12/2012 07:12:44 PM
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Re: Aginor burned out trying to use the Eye in the real world
- 07/12/2012 07:51:37 PM
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he faced Asmodean strength for strength before Rahvin
- 07/12/2012 09:23:42 PM
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Just to be a bitch
- 07/12/2012 10:17:11 PM
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you don't actually have to tell us all you are a bitch
- 07/12/2012 10:36:25 PM
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*NM*
- 08/12/2012 06:22:49 AM
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- 07/12/2012 10:36:25 PM
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*NM*
- 08/12/2012 06:22:49 AM
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He didn't face Asmodean he chased him and wrestled him over a sa'angreal.
- 10/12/2012 11:16:18 PM
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Asmo hurled plenty of stuff at Rand during the "Chase" it wasnt all that much different
- 11/12/2012 03:16:36 AM
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I disagree with your plenty cause no one was TRYING to crush him. *NM*
- 11/12/2012 07:13:12 PM
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as I said before ... your interpretations are yours to have ... as are mine. *NM*
- 11/12/2012 09:16:36 PM
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think youre misjudgjng the benefits of the link. they dont have to add up to 90.
- 07/12/2012 12:34:59 PM
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There is also no why to tell if Flinn hit Demandred with all the strength available to him either
- 07/12/2012 03:05:38 PM
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the "circle" was stronger but the individuals weren't *NM*
- 07/12/2012 06:58:38 PM
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that's what I just said *NM*
- 07/12/2012 07:23:34 PM
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that was not clear *NM*
- 07/12/2012 07:43:54 PM
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*shrug*
- 07/12/2012 09:25:00 PM
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Re: *shrug*
- 10/12/2012 11:27:42 PM
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If I had said the individuals in the circle added to Dmandreds strength perhaps
- 11/12/2012 03:28:23 AM
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in the context of this discussion you did not distinguish between the effective strength and
- 11/12/2012 07:10:48 PM
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whatever ... didn't think it was necessary ... and with that I'm done
- 11/12/2012 09:16:03 PM
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- 17/12/2012 11:22:55 PM
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- 17/12/2012 11:22:55 PM
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About Rand's strength... an important quote is being ignored:
- 08/12/2012 12:37:38 AM
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Perhaps
- 08/12/2012 01:01:21 AM
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Re: Perhaps
- 08/12/2012 02:06:39 AM
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Like I said ... Could be
- 08/12/2012 02:33:43 AM
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I disagree...
- 08/12/2012 04:53:09 AM
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Re: I disagree...
- 08/12/2012 05:20:08 AM
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I disagree again!
- 08/12/2012 05:49:15 AM
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Probably
- 08/12/2012 02:46:15 PM
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Always thought the forsaken didn't really know much about Rand
- 08/12/2012 02:38:08 AM
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And they had plenty of spies around him and clearly knew that he managed
- 08/12/2012 02:43:15 AM
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Re: And they had plenty of spies around him and clearly knew that he managed
- 08/12/2012 05:34:54 AM
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Who can say. Graendal wraps them so deep in compulsion that she can dig
- 08/12/2012 05:42:39 AM
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I don't think they could have had a clear idea of his strength eary in the series...
- 08/12/2012 09:34:36 AM
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Re: I don't think they could have had a clear idea of his strength eary in the series...
- 08/12/2012 02:54:08 PM
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Re: About Rand's strength... an important quote is being ignored:
- 11/12/2012 11:36:51 PM
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