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I disagree... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 08/12/2012 04:53:09 AM
I don't think you need SUPREME skill to be Egwene level and pose a threat to the Foresaken. You might need that level of skill to be able to guarantee your survival every single time, but not if you want to pose a reasonable threat.

I think you're shooting your own argument about the importance of strength in the foot by insisting you need enormous skill to overcome the strength gap between Egwene and the Foresaken. Demandred would be content with a mere angreal then, to challenge Rand. He wants a sa'angreal, though, even though he's just a little less skilled than Rand.
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I really hate to bring up strength in the OP, but thankfully it doesn't regard Egwene or any women. - 04/12/2012 06:01:45 AM 1875 Views
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*NM* - 08/12/2012 06:22:49 AM 857 Views
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the "circle" was stronger but the individuals weren't *NM* - 07/12/2012 06:58:38 PM 582 Views
that's what I just said *NM* - 07/12/2012 07:23:34 PM 517 Views
that was not clear *NM* - 07/12/2012 07:43:54 PM 603 Views
*shrug* - 07/12/2012 09:25:00 PM 859 Views
Re: *shrug* - 10/12/2012 11:27:42 PM 957 Views
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in the context of this discussion you did not distinguish between the effective strength and - 11/12/2012 07:10:48 PM 911 Views
whatever ... didn't think it was necessary ... and with that I'm done - 11/12/2012 09:16:03 PM 880 Views
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About Rand's strength... an important quote is being ignored: - 08/12/2012 12:37:38 AM 1113 Views
Perhaps - 08/12/2012 01:01:21 AM 930 Views
Re: Perhaps - 08/12/2012 02:06:39 AM 991 Views
Like I said ... Could be - 08/12/2012 02:33:43 AM 972 Views
I disagree... - 08/12/2012 04:53:09 AM 926 Views
Re: I disagree... - 08/12/2012 05:20:08 AM 855 Views
I disagree again! - 08/12/2012 05:49:15 AM 934 Views
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Re: Probably - 09/12/2012 07:51:59 PM 980 Views
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Re: Not really - 10/12/2012 01:05:54 AM 918 Views
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We're essentially saying the same thing now - 08/12/2012 02:37:17 PM 927 Views
Re: I don't think the Forsaken are good examples - 28/12/2012 08:08:21 PM 846 Views
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Re: And they had plenty of spies around him and clearly knew that he managed - 08/12/2012 05:34:54 AM 984 Views
Who can say. Graendal wraps them so deep in compulsion that she can dig - 08/12/2012 05:42:39 AM 972 Views
Oops, double post. *NM* - 08/12/2012 09:34:36 AM 589 Views
Re: About Rand's strength... an important quote is being ignored: - 11/12/2012 11:36:51 PM 963 Views
Re: Rand v Aginor - 16/12/2012 01:46:08 PM 914 Views
Not a bad theory and I've read it before - 16/12/2012 07:42:31 PM 862 Views

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