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I disagree... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 08/12/2012 04:53:09 AM
I don't think you need SUPREME skill to be Egwene level and pose a threat to the Foresaken. You might need that level of skill to be able to guarantee your survival every single time, but not if you want to pose a reasonable threat.

I think you're shooting your own argument about the importance of strength in the foot by insisting you need enormous skill to overcome the strength gap between Egwene and the Foresaken. Demandred would be content with a mere angreal then, to challenge Rand. He wants a sa'angreal, though, even though he's just a little less skilled than Rand.
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I really hate to bring up strength in the OP, but thankfully it doesn't regard Egwene or any women. - 04/12/2012 06:01:45 AM 1928 Views
My thoughts - 04/12/2012 07:15:44 AM 1342 Views
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Couple of things ... **reminder that this is a lot of speculation** - 04/12/2012 04:29:50 PM 1300 Views
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Re: and that's just YOUR theory Sidius - 07/12/2012 10:14:53 PM 1065 Views
there were more like MILLIONS of Forsaken during these times - 07/12/2012 10:30:34 PM 1035 Views
Re: and that's just YOUR theory Sidius - 28/12/2012 08:44:51 PM 866 Views
Aginors defeat could be a result of multiple factors. So can Ishmaels - 07/12/2012 01:24:18 PM 1090 Views
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I disagree. - 07/12/2012 06:55:43 PM 985 Views
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he faced Asmodean strength for strength before Rahvin - 07/12/2012 09:23:42 PM 1094 Views
Just to be a bitch - 07/12/2012 10:17:11 PM 917 Views
you don't actually have to tell us all you are a bitch - 07/12/2012 10:36:25 PM 1077 Views
*NM* - 08/12/2012 06:22:49 AM 913 Views
think youre misjudgjng the benefits of the link. they dont have to add up to 90. - 07/12/2012 12:34:59 PM 1032 Views
There is also no why to tell if Flinn hit Demandred with all the strength available to him either - 07/12/2012 03:05:38 PM 1007 Views
the "circle" was stronger but the individuals weren't *NM* - 07/12/2012 06:58:38 PM 603 Views
that's what I just said *NM* - 07/12/2012 07:23:34 PM 542 Views
that was not clear *NM* - 07/12/2012 07:43:54 PM 627 Views
*shrug* - 07/12/2012 09:25:00 PM 913 Views
Re: *shrug* - 10/12/2012 11:27:42 PM 1010 Views
If I had said the individuals in the circle added to Dmandreds strength perhaps - 11/12/2012 03:28:23 AM 1055 Views
in the context of this discussion you did not distinguish between the effective strength and - 11/12/2012 07:10:48 PM 969 Views
whatever ... didn't think it was necessary ... and with that I'm done - 11/12/2012 09:16:03 PM 927 Views
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About Rand's strength... an important quote is being ignored: - 08/12/2012 12:37:38 AM 1162 Views
Perhaps - 08/12/2012 01:01:21 AM 979 Views
Re: Perhaps - 08/12/2012 02:06:39 AM 1046 Views
Like I said ... Could be - 08/12/2012 02:33:43 AM 1020 Views
I disagree... - 08/12/2012 04:53:09 AM 980 Views
Re: I disagree... - 08/12/2012 05:20:08 AM 911 Views
I disagree again! - 08/12/2012 05:49:15 AM 986 Views
Probably - 08/12/2012 02:46:15 PM 1024 Views
Re: Probably - 09/12/2012 07:51:59 PM 1033 Views
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Re: Not really - 10/12/2012 01:05:54 AM 973 Views
Re: Not really - 13/12/2012 03:58:48 PM 1053 Views
I don't think the Forsaken are good examples - 08/12/2012 06:18:45 AM 1034 Views
We're essentially saying the same thing now - 08/12/2012 02:37:17 PM 982 Views
Re: I don't think the Forsaken are good examples - 28/12/2012 08:08:21 PM 896 Views
Always thought the forsaken didn't really know much about Rand - 08/12/2012 02:38:08 AM 1056 Views
And they had plenty of spies around him and clearly knew that he managed - 08/12/2012 02:43:15 AM 967 Views
Re: And they had plenty of spies around him and clearly knew that he managed - 08/12/2012 05:34:54 AM 1035 Views
Who can say. Graendal wraps them so deep in compulsion that she can dig - 08/12/2012 05:42:39 AM 1026 Views
Oops, double post. *NM* - 08/12/2012 09:34:36 AM 612 Views
Re: About Rand's strength... an important quote is being ignored: - 11/12/2012 11:36:51 PM 1017 Views
Re: Rand v Aginor - 16/12/2012 01:46:08 PM 966 Views
Not a bad theory and I've read it before - 16/12/2012 07:42:31 PM 909 Views

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