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Re: Perhaps fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 08/12/2012 02:06:39 AM
Regarding the Foresaken meeting where they're worried about him... what makes you think someone of, say, Egwene's strength with LTT's memories popping up randomly is NOT a danger?

Remember that Demandred apparently would launch himself at Rand only if he had a sa'angreal. I think when you reach the upper skill levels the Foresaken are at, you need significant strength gaps to ensure success. Anything less, and there's too much chance the battle can go either way, which is why they're worried about Rand. The Foresaken need certainty of victory while fighting against him, they're not ready to face him otherwise.
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I really hate to bring up strength in the OP, but thankfully it doesn't regard Egwene or any women. DREWRULESWOT! - 04/12/2012 06:01:45 AM 2040 Views
My thoughts Sidious - 04/12/2012 07:15:44 AM 1429 Views
90 is REALLY high DREWRULESWOT! - 04/12/2012 07:25:15 AM 1407 Views
Couple of things ... **reminder that this is a lot of speculation** darius_sedai - 04/12/2012 04:29:50 PM 1395 Views
Narishma is definitely stronger, you're right. DREWRULESWOT! - 07/12/2012 03:00:53 AM 1289 Views
He was stronger than Aginor in order to channel the power of the Eye darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 03:00:10 PM 1327 Views
No I don't think so Sidious - 07/12/2012 04:13:48 PM 1187 Views
I'd say more than 80 darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 07:07:32 PM 1125 Views
81 then Sidious - 07/12/2012 08:11:34 PM 1055 Views
and that's just YOUR theory Sidius darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 09:13:42 PM 1111 Views
Re: and that's just YOUR theory Sidius Sidious - 07/12/2012 10:14:53 PM 1212 Views
there were more like MILLIONS of Forsaken during these times darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 10:30:34 PM 1159 Views
Re: and that's just YOUR theory Sidius RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2012 08:44:51 PM 970 Views
Aginors defeat could be a result of multiple factors. So can Ishmaels Onarishma - 07/12/2012 01:24:18 PM 1205 Views
Regardless, Rand was clearly in the same strength category when Aginor and he faced off darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 03:03:04 PM 1199 Views
I disagree. Onarishma - 07/12/2012 06:55:43 PM 1105 Views
Aginor burned out trying to use the Eye in the real world darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 07:12:44 PM 1141 Views
Re: Aginor burned out trying to use the Eye in the real world Onarishma - 07/12/2012 07:51:37 PM 1112 Views
he faced Asmodean strength for strength before Rahvin darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 09:23:42 PM 1194 Views
Just to be a bitch Sidious - 07/12/2012 10:17:11 PM 999 Views
you don't actually have to tell us all you are a bitch darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 10:36:25 PM 1196 Views
*NM* Sidious - 08/12/2012 06:22:49 AM 992 Views
He didn't face Asmodean he chased him and wrestled him over a sa'angreal. Onarishma - 10/12/2012 11:16:18 PM 1229 Views
Asmo hurled plenty of stuff at Rand during the "Chase" it wasnt all that much different darius_sedai - 11/12/2012 03:16:36 AM 1082 Views
I disagree with your plenty cause no one was TRYING to crush him. *NM* Onarishma - 11/12/2012 07:13:12 PM 635 Views
as I said before ... your interpretations are yours to have ... as are mine. *NM* darius_sedai - 11/12/2012 09:16:36 PM 538 Views
think youre misjudgjng the benefits of the link. they dont have to add up to 90. Onarishma - 07/12/2012 12:34:59 PM 1151 Views
There is also no why to tell if Flinn hit Demandred with all the strength available to him either darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 03:05:38 PM 1121 Views
the "circle" was stronger but the individuals weren't *NM* Onarishma - 07/12/2012 06:58:38 PM 655 Views
that's what I just said *NM* darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 07:23:34 PM 609 Views
that was not clear *NM* Onarishma - 07/12/2012 07:43:54 PM 689 Views
*shrug* darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 09:25:00 PM 1003 Views
Re: *shrug* Onarishma - 10/12/2012 11:27:42 PM 1101 Views
If I had said the individuals in the circle added to Dmandreds strength perhaps darius_sedai - 11/12/2012 03:28:23 AM 1147 Views
in the context of this discussion you did not distinguish between the effective strength and Onarishma - 11/12/2012 07:10:48 PM 1067 Views
whatever ... didn't think it was necessary ... and with that I'm done darius_sedai - 11/12/2012 09:16:03 PM 1029 Views
Onarishma - 17/12/2012 11:22:55 PM 1343 Views
About Rand's strength... an important quote is being ignored: fionwe1987 - 08/12/2012 12:37:38 AM 1262 Views
Perhaps darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 01:01:21 AM 1072 Views
Re: Perhaps fionwe1987 - 08/12/2012 02:06:39 AM 1133 Views
Like I said ... Could be darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 02:33:43 AM 1118 Views
I disagree... fionwe1987 - 08/12/2012 04:53:09 AM 1090 Views
Re: I disagree... darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 05:20:08 AM 1008 Views
I disagree again! fionwe1987 - 08/12/2012 05:49:15 AM 1069 Views
Probably darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 02:46:15 PM 1116 Views
Re: Probably fionwe1987 - 09/12/2012 07:51:59 PM 1116 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 09/12/2012 10:13:07 PM 1068 Views
Re: Not really fionwe1987 - 10/12/2012 01:05:54 AM 1088 Views
Re: Not really darius_sedai - 13/12/2012 03:58:48 PM 1182 Views
I don't think the Forsaken are good examples Sidious - 08/12/2012 06:18:45 AM 1165 Views
We're essentially saying the same thing now darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 02:37:17 PM 1092 Views
Re: I don't think the Forsaken are good examples RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2012 08:08:21 PM 1009 Views
Always thought the forsaken didn't really know much about Rand TheCrownless - 08/12/2012 02:38:08 AM 1153 Views
And they had plenty of spies around him and clearly knew that he managed darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 02:43:15 AM 1060 Views
Re: And they had plenty of spies around him and clearly knew that he managed TheCrownless - 08/12/2012 05:34:54 AM 1148 Views
Who can say. Graendal wraps them so deep in compulsion that she can dig darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 05:42:39 AM 1150 Views
I don't think they could have had a clear idea of his strength eary in the series... Narg - 08/12/2012 09:34:36 AM 1254 Views
Re: I don't think they could have had a clear idea of his strength eary in the series... darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 02:54:08 PM 1051 Views
Oops, double post. *NM* Narg - 08/12/2012 09:34:36 AM 678 Views
Re: About Rand's strength... an important quote is being ignored: Dunstan - 11/12/2012 11:36:51 PM 1140 Views
Re: Rand v Aginor Watcher - 16/12/2012 01:46:08 PM 1070 Views
Not a bad theory and I've read it before darius_sedai - 16/12/2012 07:42:31 PM 1001 Views
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