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Re: Perhaps fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 08/12/2012 02:06:39 AM
Regarding the Foresaken meeting where they're worried about him... what makes you think someone of, say, Egwene's strength with LTT's memories popping up randomly is NOT a danger?

Remember that Demandred apparently would launch himself at Rand only if he had a sa'angreal. I think when you reach the upper skill levels the Foresaken are at, you need significant strength gaps to ensure success. Anything less, and there's too much chance the battle can go either way, which is why they're worried about Rand. The Foresaken need certainty of victory while fighting against him, they're not ready to face him otherwise.
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I really hate to bring up strength in the OP, but thankfully it doesn't regard Egwene or any women. DREWRULESWOT! - 04/12/2012 06:01:45 AM 1780 Views
My thoughts Sidious - 04/12/2012 07:15:44 AM 1194 Views
90 is REALLY high DREWRULESWOT! - 04/12/2012 07:25:15 AM 1152 Views
Couple of things ... **reminder that this is a lot of speculation** darius_sedai - 04/12/2012 04:29:50 PM 1106 Views
Narishma is definitely stronger, you're right. DREWRULESWOT! - 07/12/2012 03:00:53 AM 1041 Views
He was stronger than Aginor in order to channel the power of the Eye darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 03:00:10 PM 1017 Views
No I don't think so Sidious - 07/12/2012 04:13:48 PM 915 Views
I'd say more than 80 darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 07:07:32 PM 876 Views
81 then Sidious - 07/12/2012 08:11:34 PM 800 Views
and that's just YOUR theory Sidius darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 09:13:42 PM 887 Views
Re: and that's just YOUR theory Sidius Sidious - 07/12/2012 10:14:53 PM 909 Views
there were more like MILLIONS of Forsaken during these times darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 10:30:34 PM 883 Views
Re: and that's just YOUR theory Sidius RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2012 08:44:51 PM 698 Views
Aginors defeat could be a result of multiple factors. So can Ishmaels Onarishma - 07/12/2012 01:24:18 PM 942 Views
Regardless, Rand was clearly in the same strength category when Aginor and he faced off darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 03:03:04 PM 894 Views
I disagree. Onarishma - 07/12/2012 06:55:43 PM 817 Views
Aginor burned out trying to use the Eye in the real world darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 07:12:44 PM 844 Views
Re: Aginor burned out trying to use the Eye in the real world Onarishma - 07/12/2012 07:51:37 PM 836 Views
he faced Asmodean strength for strength before Rahvin darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 09:23:42 PM 920 Views
Just to be a bitch Sidious - 07/12/2012 10:17:11 PM 770 Views
you don't actually have to tell us all you are a bitch darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 10:36:25 PM 946 Views
*NM* Sidious - 08/12/2012 06:22:49 AM 764 Views
He didn't face Asmodean he chased him and wrestled him over a sa'angreal. Onarishma - 10/12/2012 11:16:18 PM 953 Views
Asmo hurled plenty of stuff at Rand during the "Chase" it wasnt all that much different darius_sedai - 11/12/2012 03:16:36 AM 852 Views
I disagree with your plenty cause no one was TRYING to crush him. *NM* Onarishma - 11/12/2012 07:13:12 PM 516 Views
as I said before ... your interpretations are yours to have ... as are mine. *NM* darius_sedai - 11/12/2012 09:16:36 PM 431 Views
think youre misjudgjng the benefits of the link. they dont have to add up to 90. Onarishma - 07/12/2012 12:34:59 PM 871 Views
There is also no why to tell if Flinn hit Demandred with all the strength available to him either darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 03:05:38 PM 873 Views
the "circle" was stronger but the individuals weren't *NM* Onarishma - 07/12/2012 06:58:38 PM 543 Views
that's what I just said *NM* darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 07:23:34 PM 472 Views
that was not clear *NM* Onarishma - 07/12/2012 07:43:54 PM 568 Views
*shrug* darius_sedai - 07/12/2012 09:25:00 PM 773 Views
Re: *shrug* Onarishma - 10/12/2012 11:27:42 PM 870 Views
If I had said the individuals in the circle added to Dmandreds strength perhaps darius_sedai - 11/12/2012 03:28:23 AM 910 Views
in the context of this discussion you did not distinguish between the effective strength and Onarishma - 11/12/2012 07:10:48 PM 821 Views
whatever ... didn't think it was necessary ... and with that I'm done darius_sedai - 11/12/2012 09:16:03 PM 802 Views
Onarishma - 17/12/2012 11:22:55 PM 1084 Views
About Rand's strength... an important quote is being ignored: fionwe1987 - 08/12/2012 12:37:38 AM 1019 Views
Perhaps darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 01:01:21 AM 852 Views
Re: Perhaps fionwe1987 - 08/12/2012 02:06:39 AM 909 Views
Like I said ... Could be darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 02:33:43 AM 895 Views
I disagree... fionwe1987 - 08/12/2012 04:53:09 AM 812 Views
Re: I disagree... darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 05:20:08 AM 764 Views
I disagree again! fionwe1987 - 08/12/2012 05:49:15 AM 851 Views
Probably darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 02:46:15 PM 879 Views
Re: Probably fionwe1987 - 09/12/2012 07:51:59 PM 875 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 09/12/2012 10:13:07 PM 803 Views
Re: Not really fionwe1987 - 10/12/2012 01:05:54 AM 818 Views
Re: Not really darius_sedai - 13/12/2012 03:58:48 PM 896 Views
I don't think the Forsaken are good examples Sidious - 08/12/2012 06:18:45 AM 880 Views
We're essentially saying the same thing now darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 02:37:17 PM 803 Views
Re: I don't think the Forsaken are good examples RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/12/2012 08:08:21 PM 767 Views
Always thought the forsaken didn't really know much about Rand TheCrownless - 08/12/2012 02:38:08 AM 902 Views
And they had plenty of spies around him and clearly knew that he managed darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 02:43:15 AM 842 Views
Re: And they had plenty of spies around him and clearly knew that he managed TheCrownless - 08/12/2012 05:34:54 AM 898 Views
Who can say. Graendal wraps them so deep in compulsion that she can dig darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 05:42:39 AM 877 Views
I don't think they could have had a clear idea of his strength eary in the series... Narg - 08/12/2012 09:34:36 AM 977 Views
Re: I don't think they could have had a clear idea of his strength eary in the series... darius_sedai - 08/12/2012 02:54:08 PM 811 Views
Oops, double post. *NM* Narg - 08/12/2012 09:34:36 AM 549 Views
Re: About Rand's strength... an important quote is being ignored: Dunstan - 11/12/2012 11:36:51 PM 856 Views
Re: Rand v Aginor Watcher - 16/12/2012 01:46:08 PM 831 Views
Not a bad theory and I've read it before darius_sedai - 16/12/2012 07:42:31 PM 785 Views
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