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Ah, then yes, we're on the same side of this argument. lilltempest Send a noteboard - 01/12/2012 11:08:23 PM

1. Bond Holder can mask the bond if they are a Channeler
2. Bondee cannont mask the bond at all ... if Rand could have masked Alanna he would have

think evidence I'll grant you, but it seems likely IMO.


This is exactly how I see it. I thought you were arguing for fionwe's point, that bonded channelers can somehow mask the bond, which makes absolutely no sense on any level.
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Regarding Rand "tracking her actions", she can mask the bond to take care of that. *NM* lilltempest - 29/11/2012 07:45:03 PM 655 Views
That masking works both ways... *NM* fionwe1987 - 29/11/2012 07:49:41 PM 530 Views
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Moiraine and Myrelle seem to have a similar view... fionwe1987 - 04/12/2012 12:10:05 AM 1063 Views
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Elayne told Min... fionwe1987 - 30/11/2012 05:07:44 AM 823 Views
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Ah, then yes, we're on the same side of this argument. lilltempest - 01/12/2012 11:08:23 PM 892 Views
You still haven't addressed the main point... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2012 03:01:32 AM 947 Views
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