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I think Aviendha (she told Min about it) is simply ignorant about the mechanics of masking *NM* darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 30/11/2012 03:44:01 AM
I just took Elayne telling Min she could do it to mean everyone could. But regardless, we do know that when the bond is masked, the bond-holder can't feel the Warder, and the Warder can't feel the bond-holder. That's what I meant by saying it works both ways. The masking doesn't simply let you mask your emotions but still feel your Warders, AFAIK.

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No reason it can't be both Pevara asking Androl AND Androl being Farestrider's kid *NM* darius_sedai - 28/11/2012 02:11:58 AM 664 Views
The whole idea of "Farstrider's son" sounds silly, if you ask me DomA - 28/11/2012 03:23:11 AM 1354 Views
I think this is Egwene... fionwe1987 - 28/11/2012 06:38:02 AM 915 Views
Re: I think this is Egwene... DomA - 28/11/2012 03:54:09 PM 1689 Views
well isn't wild speculation part of the reason for a discussion forum? darius_sedai - 28/11/2012 04:00:35 PM 817 Views
could be a mocking quote mazza3 - 28/11/2012 04:41:36 PM 1008 Views
Possibly to the Sea Folk *NM* MikeyMikeyMikey - 28/11/2012 04:45:30 PM 515 Views
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Sounds more like Mat than Thom to me. Narg - 28/11/2012 06:04:36 PM 1040 Views
Re: Sounds more like Mat than Thom to me. DomA - 28/11/2012 06:35:35 PM 1073 Views
I was thinking that this exchange could happen later in the book... Narg - 28/11/2012 08:21:05 PM 988 Views
Re: I was thinking that this exchange could happen later in the book... DomA - 28/11/2012 09:33:46 PM 994 Views
Re: Day 3 ... marriage is not so bad ... aven - 28/11/2012 06:31:56 PM 926 Views
Re: Day 3 ... marriage is not so bad ... VTHokie - 28/11/2012 06:43:32 PM 926 Views
that is a good observation and explains the tone of the sentence *NM* darius_sedai - 28/11/2012 07:43:06 PM 508 Views
I like it. *NM* Narg - 28/11/2012 08:24:58 PM 496 Views
That makes me feel better. Kaldric - 29/11/2012 02:59:15 PM 879 Views
Berelain or an Aiel Heiko - 29/11/2012 06:01:48 AM 873 Views
Day#3 This one sounds like something Loial would tell to Perrin DomA - 28/11/2012 07:34:09 PM 1042 Views
Day #4: "Pass his bond to me." --- Moraine to Alanna? *NM* HyogaRott - 29/11/2012 05:22:01 PM 580 Views
Re: Day #4: "Pass his bond to me." --- Moraine to Alanna? darius_sedai - 29/11/2012 05:55:22 PM 879 Views
No, I think it is Egwene demanding it from Alanna, or Elayne... lilltempest - 29/11/2012 06:27:59 PM 1000 Views
Re: Day #4: "Pass his bond to me." --- Moraine to Alanna? Underwood - 29/11/2012 06:30:46 PM 898 Views
I can't see a forsaken wanting the bond with all the downsides it would cary for them. HyogaRott - 29/11/2012 06:36:08 PM 991 Views
Egwene to Alanna, IMO. DomA - 29/11/2012 07:00:01 PM 1201 Views
Highly doubtful... fionwe1987 - 29/11/2012 07:14:33 PM 992 Views
Agreed, Egwene would see the disadvantages of holding his bond as outweighing the advantages darius_sedai - 29/11/2012 07:27:48 PM 964 Views
Regarding Rand "tracking her actions", she can mask the bond to take care of that. *NM* lilltempest - 29/11/2012 07:45:03 PM 622 Views
That masking works both ways... *NM* fionwe1987 - 29/11/2012 07:49:41 PM 506 Views
Does it? Have we seen a Warder who can mask the bond from his owner? lilltempest - 29/11/2012 07:54:17 PM 798 Views
Most warders aren't channelers... Min can't mask and she is the bonder in the situation and then Onarishma - 29/11/2012 08:05:53 PM 1044 Views
You're right, most aren't channelers... lilltempest - 29/11/2012 08:22:04 PM 832 Views
That's because you see it as a leash... Onarishma - 03/12/2012 10:45:17 PM 890 Views
well it can be a leash, but that's up to the bond holder darius_sedai - 03/12/2012 10:56:49 PM 902 Views
where have we seen this emotional and physical stress that was related at all to the bond? *NM* Onarishma - 04/12/2012 12:08:23 AM 552 Views
Eylas comes to mind darius_sedai - 04/12/2012 04:31:17 AM 682 Views
Even Cadsuane speaks of "taming" men who are bonded... lilltempest - 04/12/2012 06:31:25 AM 901 Views
No argument from me on most of this darius_sedai - 04/12/2012 04:36:28 PM 971 Views
Moiraine and Myrelle seem to have a similar view... fionwe1987 - 04/12/2012 12:10:05 AM 996 Views
Mostly agreed darius_sedai - 04/12/2012 04:34:47 AM 903 Views
Hmmm... fionwe1987 - 29/11/2012 08:42:25 PM 902 Views
I think Aviendha (she told Min about it) is simply ignorant about the mechanics of masking *NM* darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 03:44:01 AM 558 Views
Elayne told Min... fionwe1987 - 30/11/2012 05:07:44 AM 757 Views
You are correct ... Min told Aviendha! darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 03:59:27 PM 820 Views
Re: You are correct ... Min told Aviendha! darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 04:04:53 PM 888 Views
Nope.. fionwe1987 - 30/11/2012 08:56:59 PM 752 Views
this is the scene I'm referring too ... but it DID work for Aviendha darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 10:19:21 PM 899 Views
Thanks to both of you for digging this up... lilltempest - 01/12/2012 04:01:48 AM 852 Views
Re: Thanks to both of you for digging this up... fionwe1987 - 01/12/2012 04:37:54 AM 830 Views
About Alanna, that isn't right... lilltempest - 01/12/2012 05:51:03 AM 787 Views
It most certainly is... fionwe1987 - 01/12/2012 03:52:45 PM 877 Views
LOL! I love how you make up nonexistent scenes to support your case. lilltempest - 01/12/2012 11:12:46 PM 893 Views
Says the woman who's come up with the most ridiculously fantastic scenarios... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2012 03:04:54 AM 829 Views
Yet Min holds Rands Bond *NM* darius_sedai - 01/12/2012 05:48:39 AM 489 Views
And? What does that prove? lilltempest - 01/12/2012 05:53:43 AM 902 Views
I think we do know a couple of things darius_sedai - 01/12/2012 03:32:09 PM 795 Views
Ah, then yes, we're on the same side of this argument. lilltempest - 01/12/2012 11:08:23 PM 832 Views
You still haven't addressed the main point... fionwe1987 - 02/12/2012 03:01:32 AM 882 Views
Hmmm fionwe1987 - 01/12/2012 04:22:26 AM 828 Views
Min is not the Warder in the situation with Rand. She is the only non-Channeler who is a bond holde darius_sedai - 01/12/2012 05:52:08 AM 886 Views
I'm pretty sure Elayas can't mask the bond either ... I'd have to go look, but I think there darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 03:41:51 AM 883 Views
Something when he's talking to Perrin? TheCrownless - 30/11/2012 07:25:33 PM 795 Views
found it darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 10:11:53 PM 959 Views
Day #5 - What!?!?!?! HousealThor - 30/11/2012 05:46:44 PM 971 Views
I really want that to be a sarcastic moment between Mat and Egwene *NM* darius_sedai - 30/11/2012 06:06:18 PM 414 Views
This sounds like Moiraine to me...possibly dry and sarcastic... lilltempest - 01/12/2012 04:05:21 AM 848 Views
Who whispers sarcastically though? fionwe1987 - 01/12/2012 04:29:30 AM 817 Views
Many people do... lilltempest - 01/12/2012 05:47:06 AM 903 Views
Not seeing it in the situation you wrote. Sorry. fionwe1987 - 01/12/2012 03:57:32 PM 865 Views
Of course you don't. In your world, Egwene will glare at Tuon and Tuon will drop to her knees.... lilltempest - 01/12/2012 11:13:53 PM 982 Views
What's that got to do with anything? fionwe1987 - 02/12/2012 03:00:08 AM 1042 Views
Hmm yeah sounds more like Moiraine or possibly Nynaeve *NM* Praziquantel - 01/12/2012 07:03:42 AM 552 Views
Day 6 .... Galad ... MEH darius_sedai - 02/12/2012 04:31:29 PM 1191 Views
Day 7 ... "Nobody travels the Ways," Ituralde said, aghast. darius_sedai - 02/12/2012 05:39:56 PM 1043 Views
Not Demandred I think Sidious - 04/12/2012 07:16:27 AM 955 Views
Demandred wouldn't be seen using the Ways himself! darius_sedai - 04/12/2012 09:04:06 PM 901 Views
My thought was Ituralde finding out about Caemlyn TheCrownless - 05/12/2012 12:11:03 AM 1159 Views
Yup ... And I suspect we'll be seeing several more attacks like this darius_sedai - 05/12/2012 12:14:34 AM 928 Views
Yup ... And I suspect we'll be seeing several more attacks like this darius_sedai - 05/12/2012 12:14:36 AM 977 Views
Well not personally obviously Sidious - 05/12/2012 08:11:41 AM 905 Views
The Light would be stupid to risk them now that they have Traveling darius_sedai - 05/12/2012 03:06:21 PM 865 Views
Maybe they have to use them Sidious - 06/12/2012 06:40:49 AM 971 Views
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