No, I think it is Egwene demanding it from Alanna, or Elayne...
lilltempest Send a noteboard - 29/11/2012 06:27:59 PM
If she sees that she cannot control him and that he will do as he pleases, no matter her demands, she would not think twice about taking his bond from one of the women who holds that power over him. Despite Alanna's inability to "handle" him, Egwene would believe that she is far more able to use the bond to force him to her will. And there is no way in hell Rand would allow her to bond him. If she wants it, she'll have to take it from one who already holds him.
Additionally, if she sees the world's leaders falling in behind him, rather than siding with her, holding his bond would effectively get them in line - after all, everyone knows that a Warder is nothing more than an Aes Sedai lapdog. Plus, Egwene has been set up as flat out godlike in that she can snap someone's mind with her iron will (Mesaana), so it would not surprise me in the least if she can force Rand to her will using the bond. It will disgust me, but it would not surprise me.
Additionally, if she sees the world's leaders falling in behind him, rather than siding with her, holding his bond would effectively get them in line - after all, everyone knows that a Warder is nothing more than an Aes Sedai lapdog. Plus, Egwene has been set up as flat out godlike in that she can snap someone's mind with her iron will (Mesaana), so it would not surprise me in the least if she can force Rand to her will using the bond. It will disgust me, but it would not surprise me.
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28/11/2012 01:07:22 AM
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No reason it can't be both Pevara asking Androl AND Androl being Farestrider's kid *NM*
28/11/2012 02:11:58 AM
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The whole idea of "Farstrider's son" sounds silly, if you ask me
28/11/2012 03:23:11 AM
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well isn't wild speculation part of the reason for a discussion forum?
28/11/2012 04:00:35 PM
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28/11/2012 05:18:05 PM
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Sounds more like Mat than Thom to me.
28/11/2012 06:04:36 PM
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Re: Sounds more like Mat than Thom to me.
28/11/2012 06:35:35 PM
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I was thinking that this exchange could happen later in the book...
28/11/2012 08:21:05 PM
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Re: I was thinking that this exchange could happen later in the book...
28/11/2012 09:33:46 PM
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28/11/2012 06:43:32 PM
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that is a good observation and explains the tone of the sentence *NM*
28/11/2012 07:43:06 PM
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Day #4: "Pass his bond to me." --- Moraine to Alanna? *NM*
29/11/2012 05:22:01 PM
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No, I think it is Egwene demanding it from Alanna, or Elayne...
29/11/2012 06:27:59 PM
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Re: Day #4: "Pass his bond to me." --- Moraine to Alanna?
29/11/2012 06:30:46 PM
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I can't see a forsaken wanting the bond with all the downsides it would cary for them.
29/11/2012 06:36:08 PM
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Egwene to Alanna, IMO.
29/11/2012 07:00:01 PM
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Highly doubtful...
29/11/2012 07:14:33 PM
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Agreed, Egwene would see the disadvantages of holding his bond as outweighing the advantages
29/11/2012 07:27:48 PM
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Regarding Rand "tracking her actions", she can mask the bond to take care of that. *NM*
29/11/2012 07:45:03 PM
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That masking works both ways... *NM*
29/11/2012 07:49:41 PM
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Does it? Have we seen a Warder who can mask the bond from his owner?
29/11/2012 07:54:17 PM
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Most warders aren't channelers... Min can't mask and she is the bonder in the situation and then
29/11/2012 08:05:53 PM
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You're right, most aren't channelers...
29/11/2012 08:22:04 PM
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That's because you see it as a leash...
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well it can be a leash, but that's up to the bond holder
03/12/2012 10:56:49 PM
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where have we seen this emotional and physical stress that was related at all to the bond? *NM*
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Eylas comes to mind
04/12/2012 04:31:17 AM
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Hmmm...
29/11/2012 08:42:25 PM
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I think Aviendha (she told Min about it) is simply ignorant about the mechanics of masking *NM*
30/11/2012 03:44:01 AM
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Elayne told Min...
30/11/2012 05:07:44 AM
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You are correct ... Min told Aviendha!
30/11/2012 03:59:27 PM
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Nope..
30/11/2012 08:56:59 PM
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this is the scene I'm referring too ... but it DID work for Aviendha
30/11/2012 10:19:21 PM
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Thanks to both of you for digging this up...
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Re: Thanks to both of you for digging this up...
01/12/2012 04:37:54 AM
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About Alanna, that isn't right...
01/12/2012 05:51:03 AM
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It most certainly is...
01/12/2012 03:52:45 PM
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LOL! I love how you make up nonexistent scenes to support your case.
01/12/2012 11:12:46 PM
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Says the woman who's come up with the most ridiculously fantastic scenarios...
02/12/2012 03:04:54 AM
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Yet Min holds Rands Bond *NM*
01/12/2012 05:48:39 AM
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And? What does that prove?
01/12/2012 05:53:43 AM
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I think we do know a couple of things
01/12/2012 03:32:09 PM
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Hmmm
01/12/2012 04:22:26 AM
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Min is not the Warder in the situation with Rand. She is the only non-Channeler who is a bond holde
01/12/2012 05:52:08 AM
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I'm pretty sure Elayas can't mask the bond either ... I'd have to go look, but I think there
30/11/2012 03:41:51 AM
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Day #5 - What!?!?!?!
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I really want that to be a sarcastic moment between Mat and Egwene *NM*
30/11/2012 06:06:18 PM
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This sounds like Moiraine to me...possibly dry and sarcastic...
01/12/2012 04:05:21 AM
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Who whispers sarcastically though?
01/12/2012 04:29:30 AM
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Many people do...
01/12/2012 05:47:06 AM
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Not seeing it in the situation you wrote. Sorry.
01/12/2012 03:57:32 PM
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Of course you don't. In your world, Egwene will glare at Tuon and Tuon will drop to her knees....
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Not Demandred I think
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Demandred wouldn't be seen using the Ways himself!
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My thought was Ituralde finding out about Caemlyn
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Yup ... And I suspect we'll be seeing several more attacks like this
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Yup ... And I suspect we'll be seeing several more attacks like this
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Well not personally obviously
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The Light would be stupid to risk them now that they have Traveling
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