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this is why I refuse to continue this debate darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 20/11/2012 05:31:11 PM
No one sees it this way? You don't. Sidious doesn't. Probably Shannow won't. If I'm supposed to simply accept as fact anything you three see as fact, I'd be making millions of mistakes.

You clearly can't argue on the facts of the case, and continue to ignore the very quote your provided.Continue on with your head in the sand.


It will continue to go in circles ... believe as you will on this, but just because you want to ignore quotes and facts in the books to fit your theories doesn't make them true.

Amy's herself tells us Egwene was going to break through the shield held on her. Amys is at least as strong as Katerine which makes her stronger than Barasine and probably at least equal to Silviana. And Egwene is most likely considerably stronger in KoD than she was in TFoH and LoC. The obvious answer is forkroot.
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How many standard deviations is Lanfear Lanfear - 15/11/2012 06:04:39 PM 2216 Views
Well... vandevere - 15/11/2012 07:02:45 PM 1216 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 15/11/2012 07:25:34 PM 1346 Views
see we CAN agree on stuff darius_sedai - 15/11/2012 07:56:12 PM 1189 Views
Sidious - 18/11/2012 08:37:22 PM 1057 Views
We've always been close with everything except the scale darius_sedai - 18/11/2012 10:29:07 PM 1101 Views
Re: DomA - 18/11/2012 11:07:17 PM 1277 Views
Re: Sidious - 19/11/2012 05:16:00 AM 1106 Views
Re: DomA - 19/11/2012 03:13:01 PM 1095 Views
They only reject 37.5%, not 62.5% Shannow - 19/11/2012 03:19:19 PM 1116 Views
Re: They only reject 37.5%, not 62.5% DomA - 19/11/2012 04:01:43 PM 1315 Views
Re: They only reject 37.5%, not 62.5% darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 09:04:04 PM 1071 Views
Hmmm... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 02:08:40 AM 1147 Views
Perhaps, but Egwene is also being a bit dramatic in the scene as she managed darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:28:57 AM 1094 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:13:13 PM 1145 Views
I believe she is being over dramatic darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 03:26:24 PM 1039 Views
Keep believing that... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:30:14 PM 1181 Views
*shrugs* darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 03:49:10 PM 1127 Views
Tired and forkroot are the same now? fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:55:22 PM 1020 Views
No it's the literary device darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:04:28 PM 1164 Views
This is getting ridiculous... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 04:43:13 PM 1032 Views
You are missing my point completely darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:50:46 PM 995 Views
Impossible. Daigian is exactly 0.32SD below the mean Shannow - 19/11/2012 11:06:04 AM 1096 Views
You keep saying that, but it is either a linear or a non-linear distribution darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 09:09:32 PM 1146 Views
That's the whole point. Thanks for finally seeing it. Shannow - 19/11/2012 09:43:27 PM 1109 Views
keep believing that ... but you making up numbers isn't really relevant *NM* darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:29:44 AM 699 Views
Please show me a number that is made up. The 0.32SD for Daigian is a rule of statistics. Shannow - 20/11/2012 07:15:48 AM 1062 Views
Go read Fionwe's post about it *NM* darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 02:33:19 PM 700 Views
Is that before or after she started juicing? Praziquantel - 15/11/2012 11:04:14 PM 1091 Views
Wouldn't it be 1 in 105 million? Lanfear - 21/11/2012 04:56:19 PM 945 Views
Are you sure that it is a normal distribution? Dreadlord - 16/11/2012 04:21:02 PM 1158 Views
Ugh. I hate power level discussions. For real world applications, it should be kind of meaningless beetnemesis - 16/11/2012 10:28:49 PM 1047 Views
I don't really agree Sidious - 18/11/2012 08:40:53 PM 1022 Views
Perhaps, but we've seen that a MUCH weaker Channeler can win in a duel darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 09:13:48 PM 1067 Views
Re: Perhaps, but we've seen that a MUCH weaker Channeler can win in a duel Sidious - 20/11/2012 08:10:01 AM 1041 Views
probably ... Lanfear/Cyndane is clearly remarkably skilled darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 02:35:09 PM 1080 Views
Since I've proven that it's not a normal distribution in units of absolute strength, SDs don't apply Shannow - 17/11/2012 07:48:21 PM 1100 Views
You have proven nothing, except that you have an opinion *NM* darius_sedai - 18/11/2012 02:21:35 AM 674 Views
You simply don't get it. It is mathematically a fact. There is no opinion involved. Shannow - 18/11/2012 02:19:40 PM 931 Views
Only because you've assigned numeric values. That you created. darius_sedai - 18/11/2012 02:40:51 PM 1065 Views
It doesn't matter what figure you use... Shannow - 18/11/2012 03:01:56 PM 947 Views
What if Daigian is one third Lanfear's strength? fionwe1987 - 18/11/2012 04:37:58 PM 1107 Views
We have a limit for Daigian's strength, as you well know. Shannow - 18/11/2012 05:41:49 PM 1072 Views
Are you kidding me? fionwe1987 - 18/11/2012 09:07:38 PM 1196 Views
Sure you can darius_sedai - 18/11/2012 10:09:31 PM 1099 Views
Re: Sure you can DomA - 18/11/2012 10:54:50 PM 1076 Views
You're right, though its 37.5% fionwe1987 - 19/11/2012 12:21:29 AM 1026 Views
Oops, typo! darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 02:54:25 AM 1074 Views
Again, not possible, due to Daigian being just 0.3SD below the Mean Shannow - 19/11/2012 08:37:01 AM 1030 Views
Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... fionwe1987 - 19/11/2012 04:05:12 PM 957 Views
Re: Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... Sidious - 19/11/2012 05:55:02 PM 908 Views
Egwene is about as strong as Melaine and Amys combined darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 09:19:50 PM 1033 Views
Re: Egwene is about as strong as Melaine and Amys combined fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 02:11:26 AM 1079 Views
Forkroot in every case darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:32:26 AM 1031 Views
No! fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:15:16 PM 1019 Views
I'm not going to go re-read the books to you on this darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 03:39:46 PM 1046 Views
You need to read it for yourself, since you're completely confused. fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:54:26 PM 1007 Views
Not going to argue this with you. darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:09:44 PM 963 Views
Your own example disproved your point... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 04:39:25 PM 1079 Views
let's see, she's both asleep and would need hours to regain her strength darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:43:17 PM 986 Views
Enough! fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:04:06 PM 1042 Views
LOL ... whatever. You go on believing that ... no one else sees it this way. *NM* darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:20:52 PM 665 Views
What a brilliant argument! fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:25:18 PM 1053 Views
this is why I refuse to continue this debate darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:31:11 PM 994 Views
Re: Your own example disproved your point... Sidious - 20/11/2012 05:10:15 PM 1081 Views
Barasine + Katerine isn't that much less than darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:26:31 PM 1086 Views
Re: Barasine + Katerine isn't that much less than Sidious - 20/11/2012 05:31:50 PM 1047 Views
Re: Barasine + Katerine isn't that much less than darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:42:53 PM 1038 Views
Excuse me? fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:28:48 PM 1083 Views
see we can agree on the relative strength of Egwene v. Forsaken darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:35:07 PM 1050 Views
??? Sidious - 20/11/2012 05:37:01 PM 1151 Views
2 middling sisters darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:45:27 PM 1072 Views
Re: Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 02:26:47 AM 991 Views
Re: Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... Sidious - 20/11/2012 09:03:40 AM 1017 Views
Re: Egwene is definitely not 2x Amys... darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 02:59:08 PM 1053 Views
None of this is backed by any evidence... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:24:12 PM 985 Views
who said Cadsuane was 1.5x Moiraine or more? darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:03:13 PM 993 Views
Nope... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 04:41:35 PM 1014 Views
wrong darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:48:50 PM 941 Views
My bad. Mized up 1/3 and 2/3. fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:05:05 PM 1057 Views
gotcha *NM* darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:46:21 PM 633 Views
Better evidence? LOL! fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:18:55 PM 1032 Views
Huh? How did you come to that conclusion? darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:40:56 PM 1037 Views
Exactly *NM* Sidious - 20/11/2012 04:55:28 PM 984 Views
BEcause Cadsuane is close on the heels of Egwene? fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:10:50 PM 938 Views
I'm not arguing that. I agree that Cadsuane is pretty close to Egwene darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:50:34 PM 1050 Views
Re: Better evidence? LOL! Sidious - 20/11/2012 05:00:47 PM 947 Views
Interesting, but let's go with your figures... Shannow - 19/11/2012 06:54:54 AM 1065 Views
Indeed Sidious - 19/11/2012 08:16:44 AM 1121 Views
Rand is sort of a special case darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:25:02 AM 985 Views
Regarding Mesaana... Sidious - 20/11/2012 08:42:56 AM 1021 Views
You continue to mix two things darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 03:24:44 PM 946 Views
No Sidious - 20/11/2012 04:54:19 PM 1180 Views
You are mistaken darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 05:04:40 PM 1033 Views
Yes she did Darius! Sidious - 20/11/2012 05:27:36 PM 957 Views
Yet there is no duel darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 06:01:17 PM 961 Views
Explain the .3xSD thing to me... fionwe1987 - 19/11/2012 04:58:57 PM 1192 Views
Probably, but the AS have no idea what 37.5% means darius_sedai - 19/11/2012 02:59:26 AM 984 Views
It's irrelevant DomA - 19/11/2012 03:46:42 AM 1055 Views
Agreed. Daigian is the marker of the absolute bottom of Aes Sedai strength. Shannow - 19/11/2012 06:55:41 AM 1022 Views
Daigian Sidious - 19/11/2012 08:12:19 AM 1030 Views
It is a direct marker due to RJ's quote Shannow - 19/11/2012 08:50:26 AM 1049 Views
You missed my point Sidious - 19/11/2012 09:08:42 AM 975 Views
Re: You missed my point DomA - 19/11/2012 02:18:33 PM 1062 Views
Asmodean would never have made the comment about 13 weakest AS darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:41:11 AM 991 Views
Re: Asmodean would never have made the comment about 13 weakest AS Sidious - 20/11/2012 09:07:49 AM 982 Views
Which would make an average AS around a 30 darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:58:56 PM 871 Views
Re: Sure you can Tor - 19/11/2012 09:22:09 AM 1109 Views
Care to explain this... fionwe1987 - 19/11/2012 05:06:28 PM 938 Views
Indeed Tor - 20/11/2012 07:16:37 AM 1139 Views
Explained far better than I ever could. Bravo. Shannow - 20/11/2012 07:30:29 AM 992 Views
Well duh. fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 02:57:24 PM 1101 Views
Incorrect. Shannow - 20/11/2012 04:28:07 PM 1089 Views
No fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 04:44:16 PM 1074 Views
Re: No Tor - 20/11/2012 04:48:36 PM 1050 Views
That depends... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:18:46 PM 921 Views
Re: That depends... Tor - 20/11/2012 05:31:03 PM 1340 Views
You're integrating without lower limits... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 02:55:06 PM 1047 Views
Re: You're integrating without lower limits... Tor - 20/11/2012 04:37:57 PM 1098 Views
It matters. fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:22:40 PM 1058 Views
We are not talking about a normal distribution in any case darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:44:24 AM 886 Views
Re: We are not talking about a normal distribution in any case Tor - 20/11/2012 07:02:47 AM 1096 Views
You must tell me of this special math... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 03:10:09 PM 965 Views
Re: You must tell me of this special math... Tor - 20/11/2012 04:29:40 PM 1020 Views
Morghase is a placeholder... fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 04:45:42 PM 1102 Views
Re: Morghase is a placeholder... Tor - 20/11/2012 04:49:54 PM 1256 Views
Why? fionwe1987 - 20/11/2012 05:23:29 PM 1055 Views
Re: Why? Tor - 20/11/2012 05:36:45 PM 1234 Views
Well... Sidious - 18/11/2012 08:43:59 PM 1096 Views
Re: Well... DomA - 19/11/2012 03:40:44 PM 1075 Views
Wow. Shannow - 19/11/2012 03:53:47 PM 1101 Views
Re: Wow. DomA - 19/11/2012 04:26:09 PM 1120 Views
Some points Sidious - 19/11/2012 06:03:00 PM 1162 Views
Well then you're both wrong I'm afraid Sidious - 19/11/2012 06:09:36 PM 1006 Views
Re: Well then you're both wrong I'm afraid DomA - 19/11/2012 07:42:58 PM 878 Views
this is why I think all of the Forsaken are very close in Power darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 04:51:20 AM 1099 Views
Agreed Sidious - 20/11/2012 08:13:37 AM 1138 Views
probably darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 06:18:45 PM 998 Views
Re: this is why I think all of the Forsaken are very close in Power DomA - 20/11/2012 02:45:18 PM 1008 Views
I think RJ went out of his way to keep strength a bit of a mystery darius_sedai - 20/11/2012 08:42:44 PM 1016 Views
Indeed... DomA - 21/11/2012 05:44:18 PM 991 Views
I agree darius_sedai - 22/11/2012 01:43:02 AM 1238 Views
Math gurus...Is it possible to find the missing variable... Lanfear - 21/11/2012 05:12:24 PM 1035 Views
the problem is that the Mean is not going to tell us much really darius_sedai - 22/11/2012 02:55:03 AM 1081 Views
Re: the problem is that the Mean is not going to tell us much really Lanfear - 22/11/2012 03:15:33 AM 1402 Views
I do not think you can calculate the Mean without knowing the Units of Power darius_sedai - 22/11/2012 03:53:59 AM 1166 Views
Re: Math gurus...Is it possible to find the missing variable... Tor - 23/11/2012 02:59:12 PM 1308 Views
Disregard this post *NM* Tor - 23/11/2012 03:02:24 PM 880 Views
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