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Re: Well, they hadn't planned on them being Traveling grounds as they didn't know about DomA Send a noteboard - 09/11/2012 09:03:14 PM
Traveling until after they arrived in Caemlyn and Cairhien. The clearly had orders to secure the land before they left for these cities as both groups negotiated for the land. Later Zaida was able to get Traveling because of the BotW deal. Clearly the SF were looking for Trade enclaves inside of the two most powerful nations with no Seaports.


Zaida negotiated for a square mile of Andor with Elayne, it was part of the bargain she made with her to leave her Windfinders.

Harine also secured land, it had nothing to do with Zaida's plans.
They're bitter rivals, remember.





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[Mik's Warp] - Demandred is.....*click to find out* Mik - 05/11/2012 01:06:42 PM 2874 Views
There are only 2 months left before AMOL comes out (or less)... Tom - 05/11/2012 02:10:07 PM 1359 Views
Nah.. forget that DomA - 05/11/2012 08:29:53 PM 1234 Views
Re: Nah.. forget that RandAllThor - 05/11/2012 10:07:46 PM 1097 Views
Re: There are only 2 months left before AMOL comes out (or less)... Mik - 06/11/2012 12:40:54 PM 1274 Views
I'm not saying it's not a well-reasoned theory; it is. Tom - 06/11/2012 06:02:36 PM 1306 Views
I say Roederan is a better choice simply because of where he is located darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 11:01:28 PM 1192 Views
Re: I say Roederan is a better choice simply because of where he is located Mik - 07/11/2012 09:42:00 AM 1464 Views
I applaud your effort, but to be honest I just can't see it darius_sedai - 07/11/2012 04:48:17 PM 1063 Views
Re: I applaud your effort, but to be honest I just can't see it DomA - 07/11/2012 08:36:34 PM 1325 Views
There has been a lot of waste in WOT..... Anonymous2000 - 06/11/2012 06:26:56 PM 1013 Views
LIKE! *NM* alanna aes sedai - 09/12/2012 02:37:49 PM 1079 Views
Whoops *NM* ßelals Girl - 06/11/2012 07:27:06 PM 591 Views
Plausible, albeit antilclimactic *NM* beetnemesis - 05/11/2012 06:32:38 PM 651 Views
Unless Mat is Demandred, at this point it will be anticlimactic. *NM* Tom - 06/11/2012 04:02:38 AM 608 Views
That would be EPIC *NM* Artsapat - 06/11/2012 07:53:30 PM 618 Views
That would be EPIC *NM* Artsapat - 06/11/2012 07:53:31 PM 615 Views
You've tried too hard... DomA - 05/11/2012 07:53:41 PM 2919 Views
Will be so disappointed if the Shadow's greatest (non-crazy) leader is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky Shannow - 05/11/2012 08:57:59 PM 1212 Views
I doubt Mat will kill him personally but TheCrownless - 05/11/2012 09:24:48 PM 984 Views
I don't know darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 02:01:41 AM 1007 Views
My prediction of how it plays out... Shannow - 06/11/2012 07:12:15 AM 1096 Views
I don't think that's likely Sidious - 06/11/2012 06:04:55 PM 1064 Views
LOL ... it will be a saying in the next Age darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 10:36:04 PM 996 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely DomA - 06/11/2012 11:21:21 PM 1005 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely Sidious - 07/11/2012 08:14:28 PM 1125 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely DomA - 07/11/2012 09:05:07 PM 1227 Views
Re: I don't think that's likely Sidious - 08/11/2012 05:52:16 PM 1035 Views
It sounds like we're at the same stage of vision of the AOL DomA - 08/11/2012 07:48:17 PM 996 Views
Statistics refute some of that... Shannow - 09/11/2012 07:35:59 AM 1011 Views
We're not talking about the same things... DomA - 09/11/2012 11:31:12 PM 989 Views
The real question is how much of that was caused by the Bore and the Collapse darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 11:50:20 PM 1040 Views
It doesn't mean no one in this Age can be at Talented or Intelligent. darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 11:43:26 PM 1189 Views
Re: It doesn't mean no one in this Age can be at Talented or Intelligent. Shannow - 10/11/2012 07:34:34 AM 1094 Views
You seriously believe that? darius_sedai - 10/11/2012 04:17:09 PM 1020 Views
Mat has grown quiet a bit since those days darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 01:55:48 AM 1174 Views
You're putting the Evil on a pedestal. Praziquantel - 06/11/2012 03:12:38 AM 915 Views
No, just desperately trying to raise the stakes a bit... Shannow - 06/11/2012 07:00:59 AM 1072 Views
That's essentially what I was saying Praziquantel - 06/11/2012 03:35:45 PM 1191 Views
hmmm Yunalesca - 06/11/2012 10:27:00 AM 1305 Views
... is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky DomA - 06/11/2012 08:45:02 PM 1153 Views
Mat is essentially the man (men) who wrote the books Demandred studied darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 10:42:40 PM 967 Views
Exactly... DomA - 06/11/2012 11:45:36 PM 1138 Views
... is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky DomA - 06/11/2012 08:45:29 PM 1181 Views
I didn't try hard at all; Demandred found me... Mik - 06/11/2012 03:31:41 PM 1175 Views
My biggest contention with Demandred being with the Sea Folk darius_sedai - 06/11/2012 10:54:50 PM 1121 Views
Re: My biggest contention with Demandred being with the Sea Folk DomA - 07/11/2012 12:07:02 AM 1181 Views
Well, it instantly gives the Shadow access to attacking every coastal city... Shannow - 07/11/2012 10:32:23 AM 1057 Views
Exactly! Mik - 07/11/2012 10:54:14 AM 1599 Views
If he married Nynaeve and Moiraine he'd have his wives at Rand's side in the Pit too.... DomA - 07/11/2012 03:28:38 PM 1034 Views
I find that approach unnecessarily convoluted. Just hit them with 1 billion Trollocs and crush them. Shannow - 08/11/2012 07:00:36 AM 1031 Views
Not likely he has that many... DomA - 08/11/2012 03:00:32 PM 974 Views
May I ask some practical questions? Sidious - 08/11/2012 05:28:41 PM 959 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? Praziquantel - 08/11/2012 10:35:38 PM 1080 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? darius_sedai - 10/11/2012 12:09:15 AM 1015 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? Praziquantel - 10/11/2012 03:11:59 AM 999 Views
LOL ... Seems more than a little far fetched *NM* darius_sedai - 10/11/2012 06:17:34 AM 556 Views
Well you asked for an explanation Praziquantel - 13/11/2012 10:23:41 PM 921 Views
fair enough *NM* darius_sedai - 14/11/2012 01:31:52 AM 530 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? DomA - 10/11/2012 07:15:58 PM 1056 Views
Exactly! darius_sedai - 11/11/2012 07:38:46 AM 1046 Views
Good practical questions... Shannow - 09/11/2012 07:24:14 AM 1056 Views
He doesn't need the SF for that darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 03:00:34 PM 835 Views
Well, they hadn't planned on them being Traveling grounds as they didn't know about darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 02:57:16 PM 887 Views
Re: Well, they hadn't planned on them being Traveling grounds as they didn't know about DomA - 09/11/2012 09:03:14 PM 1018 Views
I know. I'm saying they were not doing this with Traveling in mind. darius_sedai - 09/11/2012 11:57:34 PM 977 Views
Re: I know. I'm saying they were not doing this with Traveling in mind. DomA - 10/11/2012 10:08:04 PM 2535 Views
I see what you are getting at ... And I see how Zaida used it to her advantage darius_sedai - 11/11/2012 07:45:19 AM 1040 Views
Re: I see what you are getting at ... And I see how Zaida used it to her advantage DomA - 12/11/2012 02:57:08 PM 1065 Views
Nesta sent 2 ambassadors to the Coramoor. Both looking for the same thing darius_sedai - 12/11/2012 04:11:50 PM 1088 Views
Re: Nesta sent 2 ambassadors to the Coramoor. Both looking for the same thing DomA - 12/11/2012 06:01:33 PM 1183 Views
Well there is also the fact that Harine pretty much tells us she MUST make a Bargain darius_sedai - 12/11/2012 06:51:24 PM 1201 Views
Re: Well there is also the fact that Harine pretty much tells us she MUST make a Bargain DomA - 12/11/2012 09:30:57 PM 1009 Views
Not to belabor the point darius_sedai - 12/11/2012 10:56:39 PM 964 Views
Re: Not to belabor the point DomA - 13/11/2012 12:46:21 AM 923 Views
I think you are way off base on the economics darius_sedai - 13/11/2012 01:24:35 AM 903 Views
Re: I think you are way off base on the economics DomA - 13/11/2012 03:48:40 PM 1005 Views
no reason to *NM* darius_sedai - 14/11/2012 01:35:55 AM 549 Views
I don't see the problem... Mik - 07/11/2012 10:52:49 AM 1746 Views
This is preposterous DomA - 07/11/2012 04:15:11 PM 1427 Views
Who? ßelals Girl - 06/11/2012 07:29:46 PM 956 Views
Paah, he's clearly on the Isle of Madmen to the south. Stephen - 10/11/2012 03:28:26 AM 1368 Views
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