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I don't see the problem... Mik Send a noteboard - 07/11/2012 10:52:49 AM
My biggest contention with Demandred being with the Sea Folk is that he basically gave up most of his ships to send food to Arad Doman. As we learned from the encounter with Logain and the Wavemisstesses, to ship that much food would require nearly all of their Rakers
Considering what was written in TGS & TOM (Chapter 25), I seriously doubt the whole Sea Folk fleet is there.... or if it even fits in there.

Yes, there is a big Sea Folk fleet in Bandar Eban, but Min literally states that 'most' the ships were Sea Folk. Considering what Balwer said to Niall early in LoC about the 'unusual number' of Sea Folk vessels in 'all the Southern ports' and how we saw proof of enormous Sea Folk fleets when visiting the ports of Ebou Dar, Tear and Illian, I just can't picture all those ships in a port that's probably of a size with the ports in Ebou Dar, Tear and Illian.

So, I think there are still fleets at the southern ports and that there is also a decent sized fleet in Bandar Eban. And even if that's not the case, the Windfinders know how to Travel and the Sea Folk own strips of land in several of Rand's nations due to Zaida's Bargain.

I don't see a problem for Demandred to have the Sea Folk attack at places that will severely disrupt the Light sides plans.


Aside from that the Sea Folk, while an amazing Naval force, have not been proven as a land force in any way. What are they going to attack?
My guess:
The Sea Folk will go from big suppliers of all things needed to support life in the major cities with ports, to attackers of those same cities/ ports. A double blow to the Light; from suppliers / transporters to enemies...at least for a while, untill Harine, Renaile & the Coramoor come set things straight.

I'm hoping to see burning non Sea Folk ships and ports in Tear, Illian & Bandar Eban. And the best excuse Demandred has, is to attack Ebou Dar, where the former Mistress of the Ships & her Master of the Blades were murdered by the Seanchan.

We have seen too little of the Jendai Prophecies concerning the Coramoor up untill now. My guess is, that Ishamael has been meddling with those prophecies too, as he almost certainly has been doing with the Essanik Cycle.

Once Demandred took over meddling with the Sea Folk from Ishamael (we know for sure Ishy was meddling there because there was a Sea Folk man -probably Moad- present at the Darkfriend Social as far back as TGH) he has been setting them up at positions that Sammael understood as smart moves.
I guess we'll find out in AMoL how and why the Sea Folk will attack.

I could ask you and Doma the same question, darius;
"What are the Sea Folk going to do in the next book..?"
"Why do we know 100% sure through Min that Harine will be Mistress of the Ships at one point...?"

:)
Mik ~ Ishamaels halfmad 'brother'

Death dances in my footsteps....
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There are only 2 months left before AMOL comes out (or less)... - 05/11/2012 02:10:07 PM 1349 Views
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LIKE! *NM* - 09/12/2012 02:37:49 PM 1072 Views
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That would be EPIC *NM* - 06/11/2012 07:53:30 PM 610 Views
That would be EPIC *NM* - 06/11/2012 07:53:31 PM 608 Views
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You seriously believe that? - 10/11/2012 04:17:09 PM 1010 Views
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You're putting the Evil on a pedestal. - 06/11/2012 03:12:38 AM 902 Views
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My biggest contention with Demandred being with the Sea Folk - 06/11/2012 10:54:50 PM 1109 Views
Re: My biggest contention with Demandred being with the Sea Folk - 07/11/2012 12:07:02 AM 1167 Views
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Exactly! - 07/11/2012 10:54:14 AM 1587 Views
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May I ask some practical questions? - 08/11/2012 05:28:41 PM 948 Views
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Re: May I ask some practical questions? - 10/11/2012 12:09:15 AM 1004 Views
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LOL ... Seems more than a little far fetched *NM* - 10/11/2012 06:17:34 AM 549 Views
Well you asked for an explanation - 13/11/2012 10:23:41 PM 910 Views
fair enough *NM* - 14/11/2012 01:31:52 AM 523 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? - 10/11/2012 07:15:58 PM 1042 Views
Exactly! - 11/11/2012 07:38:46 AM 1038 Views
Good practical questions... - 09/11/2012 07:24:14 AM 1045 Views
He doesn't need the SF for that - 09/11/2012 03:00:34 PM 822 Views
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Re: Well, they hadn't planned on them being Traveling grounds as they didn't know about - 09/11/2012 09:03:14 PM 1007 Views
I know. I'm saying they were not doing this with Traveling in mind. - 09/11/2012 11:57:34 PM 965 Views
Re: I know. I'm saying they were not doing this with Traveling in mind. - 10/11/2012 10:08:04 PM 2521 Views
I see what you are getting at ... And I see how Zaida used it to her advantage - 11/11/2012 07:45:19 AM 1027 Views
Re: I see what you are getting at ... And I see how Zaida used it to her advantage - 12/11/2012 02:57:08 PM 1054 Views
Nesta sent 2 ambassadors to the Coramoor. Both looking for the same thing - 12/11/2012 04:11:50 PM 1078 Views
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Re: Well there is also the fact that Harine pretty much tells us she MUST make a Bargain - 12/11/2012 09:30:57 PM 994 Views
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no reason to *NM* - 14/11/2012 01:35:55 AM 541 Views
I don't see the problem... - 07/11/2012 10:52:49 AM 1738 Views
This is preposterous - 07/11/2012 04:15:11 PM 1413 Views
Who? - 06/11/2012 07:29:46 PM 944 Views
Paah, he's clearly on the Isle of Madmen to the south. - 10/11/2012 03:28:26 AM 1354 Views

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