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Nah.. forget that DomA Send a noteboard - 05/11/2012 08:29:53 PM
...and advance copies are already out for some people (cf. Jason's vomitous paean on Dragonmount). The theory sounds grounded, so I'll just say this:

1. If you got hints from someone else, you're almost certainly right
2. If you are right (hints or no), it's got to be a Pyrrhic victory with so little time left
3. If you are right, what a waste of Demandred...

We'll all know in a couple of months (or less, if they do advance the release date).


Tor isn't sending ARCs for WOT books, Harriet forbade it and Doherty enforces this (the publicists have tried to convince him to relent, it didn't work). They didn't do it for TGS and TOM, they don't do it for AMOL either. Most reviewers who get any review copy all got final copies of the book, are for the most part pros from the big media, and still got their copy only a few days before release. Most copies to bloggers etc. were actually sent on the eve of release (Larry, I think, is one of the few who got a copy a few days in advance. Linda and me - I was still involved with the 13th Depository site a the time - got our copies 24 hours before release as our site was only a few months old at the time... Mine anyway, Linda is from Australia and got her copy quite later as the Tor agent was forbidden to use air mail).

Jason and co. (a very select club of WOT webmasters from the old days Harriet has met personally and trust... Theoryland's, EWOT's, DM's and TV.net's) have not received ARCs, they've acted as beta-readers for Team Jordan, for all three books. For TOM (perhaps for TGS too, I don't know) Harriet was so paranoid she asked Brandon to print and photocopy these "beta copies" in person as she feared she was too well-known in Charleston to do this herself. No ebook/eletronic copies were made, and the hard copy ones were retrieved after the beta-reading.

There's very little chance of any leak, not from the beta-reader or non existing ARCs anyway. That leaves blunders at Tor or the printers, but we were told security was pretty tight... even at Tor staff including the publicists involved with it were not allowed to read the book until fairly late in the game. Tor even decided the final line edits would take place out of the place (unlike in RJ's days) - they've hired RJ's assistant Maria to do that job from Charleston. Harriet's slightly (!) paranoid about spoilers and didn't take any chance.




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[Mik's Warp] - Demandred is.....*click to find out* - 05/11/2012 01:06:42 PM 2735 Views
There are only 2 months left before AMOL comes out (or less)... - 05/11/2012 02:10:07 PM 1294 Views
Nah.. forget that - 05/11/2012 08:29:53 PM 1139 Views
Re: Nah.. forget that - 05/11/2012 10:07:46 PM 997 Views
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There has been a lot of waste in WOT..... - 06/11/2012 06:26:56 PM 911 Views
LIKE! *NM* - 09/12/2012 02:37:49 PM 1032 Views
Whoops *NM* - 06/11/2012 07:27:06 PM 554 Views
Plausible, albeit antilclimactic *NM* - 05/11/2012 06:32:38 PM 608 Views
Unless Mat is Demandred, at this point it will be anticlimactic. *NM* - 06/11/2012 04:02:38 AM 567 Views
That would be EPIC *NM* - 06/11/2012 07:53:30 PM 575 Views
That would be EPIC *NM* - 06/11/2012 07:53:31 PM 567 Views
You've tried too hard... - 05/11/2012 07:53:41 PM 2804 Views
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Re: I don't think that's likely - 07/11/2012 09:05:07 PM 1121 Views
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Statistics refute some of that... - 09/11/2012 07:35:59 AM 904 Views
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Re: It doesn't mean no one in this Age can be at Talented or Intelligent. - 10/11/2012 07:34:34 AM 1002 Views
You seriously believe that? - 10/11/2012 04:17:09 PM 931 Views
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You're putting the Evil on a pedestal. - 06/11/2012 03:12:38 AM 819 Views
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That's essentially what I was saying - 06/11/2012 03:35:45 PM 1084 Views
hmmm - 06/11/2012 10:27:00 AM 1222 Views
... is defeated by Mr Happy Go Lucky - 06/11/2012 08:45:02 PM 1047 Views
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Exactly... - 06/11/2012 11:45:36 PM 1045 Views
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Re: My biggest contention with Demandred being with the Sea Folk - 07/11/2012 12:07:02 AM 1076 Views
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Exactly! - 07/11/2012 10:54:14 AM 1497 Views
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I find that approach unnecessarily convoluted. Just hit them with 1 billion Trollocs and crush them. - 08/11/2012 07:00:36 AM 906 Views
Not likely he has that many... - 08/11/2012 03:00:32 PM 841 Views
May I ask some practical questions? - 08/11/2012 05:28:41 PM 843 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? - 08/11/2012 10:35:38 PM 981 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? - 10/11/2012 12:09:15 AM 912 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? - 10/11/2012 03:11:59 AM 919 Views
LOL ... Seems more than a little far fetched *NM* - 10/11/2012 06:17:34 AM 512 Views
Well you asked for an explanation - 13/11/2012 10:23:41 PM 832 Views
fair enough *NM* - 14/11/2012 01:31:52 AM 485 Views
Re: May I ask some practical questions? - 10/11/2012 07:15:58 PM 960 Views
Exactly! - 11/11/2012 07:38:46 AM 961 Views
Good practical questions... - 09/11/2012 07:24:14 AM 955 Views
He doesn't need the SF for that - 09/11/2012 03:00:34 PM 732 Views
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Re: Well, they hadn't planned on them being Traveling grounds as they didn't know about - 09/11/2012 09:03:14 PM 908 Views
I know. I'm saying they were not doing this with Traveling in mind. - 09/11/2012 11:57:34 PM 884 Views
Re: I know. I'm saying they were not doing this with Traveling in mind. - 10/11/2012 10:08:04 PM 2420 Views
I see what you are getting at ... And I see how Zaida used it to her advantage - 11/11/2012 07:45:19 AM 945 Views
Re: I see what you are getting at ... And I see how Zaida used it to her advantage - 12/11/2012 02:57:08 PM 961 Views
Nesta sent 2 ambassadors to the Coramoor. Both looking for the same thing - 12/11/2012 04:11:50 PM 993 Views
Re: Nesta sent 2 ambassadors to the Coramoor. Both looking for the same thing - 12/11/2012 06:01:33 PM 1081 Views
Well there is also the fact that Harine pretty much tells us she MUST make a Bargain - 12/11/2012 06:51:24 PM 1112 Views
Re: Well there is also the fact that Harine pretty much tells us she MUST make a Bargain - 12/11/2012 09:30:57 PM 911 Views
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Re: Not to belabor the point - 13/11/2012 12:46:21 AM 821 Views
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Re: I think you are way off base on the economics - 13/11/2012 03:48:40 PM 907 Views
no reason to *NM* - 14/11/2012 01:35:55 AM 502 Views
I don't see the problem... - 07/11/2012 10:52:49 AM 1635 Views
This is preposterous - 07/11/2012 04:15:11 PM 1335 Views
Who? - 06/11/2012 07:29:46 PM 861 Views
Paah, he's clearly on the Isle of Madmen to the south. - 10/11/2012 03:28:26 AM 1285 Views

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