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Why do you always think Strength is the point darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 03/11/2012 04:35:26 PM
Lanfear at 10% more than Moiraine would still be vastly more powerful than Moiraine due to training. You cheapen the Forsaken by making their power all about their Strength. And you ignore the text which tells us over and over how worthless strength really is when compared to training. Even Moghedien states it and she is the only one of the Forsaken who even seems to notice Strength unless they are surprised.

Cyndane v. Alivia is all I need from the books to see that strength is irrelevant in the grand scheme. Egwene couldn't match any Forsaken when she makes the statement, but a few books later she says out right that she could face Mesaana, she's probably grown a bit in strength in the interim, but she's also learned an amazing amount about the Power as we see throughout the book. She knows the general level of these women and would not be able to say that out loud if she did not believe it. I know you will next pull out the quote about "the woman was so strong" from the TAR battle, which is NOT about OP strength, it's a comment on Mesaana's mind in TAR. There wasnt even a mention of Mesaana using the OP in that encounter, just her will.

Believe all you like that Lanfear is 500% every other Channeler ... Personally I think that makes the character even more boring. The books are more interesting to me if the main characters can actually stand a chance against the evil characters. Your Lanfear fanboy beliefs would make the series unbelievably dull to me.

Pevara being strong even for a man just strengthens my belief that the Forsaken are not that much stronger than the top level AS.

Anyway, I'm not going to continue to re hash the same conversation we've been having for years without a significant body of new quotes. All we'll end up doing is pulling the same ones that have been around for 20 years :)
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