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If you choose to ignore the author go right ahead. I just think you are wrong darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 02/11/2012 09:05:14 PM
You can't seem to grasp the fact that a bell curve distribution does not have to be linear to work.

What Dreadlord describes is not far from how I see this to be honest, I don't really agree with Linda's use of levels as I think the Forsaken are on too many levels, but if you look at what he has done it will roughly follow a bell curve. Rejigger some of the use of levels and we are very close in our thoughts.

Another point you can't seem to grasp is that a bell curve is not saying Lanfear is 100% stronger than Morgase. There are no power volumes assigned to the scale. Stating Moiraine is above the Mean is not the same as saying Moiraine is more than 50% as strong as Lanfear. You continue to confuse the issue by not understanding that Lanfear can be 500x as strong as Morgase and still represent "100" on our imaginary scale.

And you continue to ignore the fact that you want to have a Mean that has 6 SD above it but cannot support 6 below it ... Which is not possible.

I'd rather argue this with you all day than read your creative quoting of the text, which almost never supports your strength theories. You have no grasp on the chronology of the books and consistently quote things out of context or mix when events happen (sometimes by months) to support your thoughts.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
This message last edited by darius_sedai on 02/11/2012 at 10:08:26 PM
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