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Re: Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola TheCrownless Send a noteboard - 30/10/2012 05:54:41 PM

And Tarna and Theodrin were both Wilders (meaning they had the Spark) and neither of them are in the very top tiers of AS strength, which shows the Spark is not linked to strength. In fact there are many AS who had the Spark and are weak, we just don't see a ton of them onscreen. But they must exist since there is a special classification for them within AS hierarchy and we hear from Verin how many women come to the Tower with "tricks".


I'm sorry but that's a leap too far for me. A few outliers are not sufficient to make that kind of claim, especially when Theodrin nor Tarna are 'weak' and virtually all of the channellers stronger than Nicola (on the female side) are born with the spark.

I assume most things RJ implemented are literary devices, which is probably why we get grey areas like this.
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The Bell Curve revisited Shannow - 29/10/2012 09:44:09 AM 1427 Views
Re: The Bell Curve revisited Tor - 29/10/2012 10:21:27 AM 818 Views
That's incorrect... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:26:49 AM 1387 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:36:32 AM 833 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:40:27 AM 681 Views
Re: That's incorrect... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:42:57 AM 677 Views
Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:45:07 AM 767 Views
Re: Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Tor - 29/10/2012 10:49:49 AM 660 Views
Re: Hehe...There are a few disputing it vocally. Whether they're in their right mind, well... Shannow - 29/10/2012 10:56:37 AM 745 Views
It's only as skewed as it seems when you make the assumption that the Forsaken darius_sedai - 31/10/2012 04:34:11 AM 957 Views
RJ the physicist didn't know math, so that Shannow could be right... fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 02:11:19 PM 717 Views
Response to a few of your poorly researched points... Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:31:17 PM 695 Views
Re: RJ the physicist didn't know math, so that Shannow could be right... Tor - 29/10/2012 02:37:33 PM 709 Views
Exactly... Shannow - 29/10/2012 02:39:30 PM 699 Views
there are dozens of reasons for this darius_sedai - 29/10/2012 08:18:18 PM 723 Views
Excellent point. fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:24:37 PM 750 Views
Re: there are dozens of reasons for this Tor - 29/10/2012 09:07:35 PM 651 Views
Again I don't argue that genetics play no role darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 01:57:24 AM 622 Views
Re: Again I don't argue that genetics play no role Tor - 30/10/2012 07:07:17 AM 654 Views
I don't think it plays much role in the plot darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:17:55 PM 798 Views
Once again just so,we are clear on my stance with Genetics and Strength darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:27:11 PM 672 Views
That the 1000 Novices aren't a random sample of the population? fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:23:47 PM 608 Views
And why would it be biased towards those with lower strength? Tor - 29/10/2012 09:11:25 PM 600 Views
Absolutely no reason... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:35:35 AM 713 Views
Re: Absolutely no reason... Tor - 30/10/2012 06:43:54 AM 610 Views
Only if it was a random sampling. Which this is not. fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:58:34 PM 686 Views
That's exactly the point. I want you to explain why it wasn't random. Tor - 30/10/2012 02:14:59 PM 614 Views
It wasn't random because it was a self-selected sample! fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:43:03 PM 633 Views
Re: It wasn't random because it was a self-selected sample! Tor - 30/10/2012 02:47:30 PM 636 Views
Go read a stats text will you? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:54:16 PM 628 Views
Done Tor - 31/10/2012 09:34:11 AM 1300 Views
You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... fionwe1987 - 10/11/2012 10:14:19 PM 880 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 11:37:16 AM 682 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... fionwe1987 - 11/11/2012 07:14:48 PM 575 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 08:33:59 PM 1322 Views
Re: You seem to have perfected whining to a Talent... Tor - 11/11/2012 08:43:19 PM 840 Views
Seriously? I went and looked at some statistics books, and you won't even reply? Tor - 01/11/2012 12:13:49 PM 660 Views
Still nothing? Tor - 10/11/2012 03:33:15 PM 639 Views
Still doesn't explain the difference Praziquantel - 30/10/2012 07:01:53 PM 578 Views
Re: Still doesn't explain the difference fionwe1987 - 10/11/2012 10:21:00 PM 660 Views
Yes that totally makes sense Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:07:16 AM 751 Views
Thank you! *NM* Tor - 30/10/2012 10:19:15 AM 345 Views
That's not what happened... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:01:52 PM 669 Views
Re: That's not what happened... Tor - 30/10/2012 02:15:57 PM 628 Views
Who said it would? fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:44:17 PM 642 Views
let's not mix up "random" and "representative" darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:28:09 PM 689 Views
Doesn't mean RJ applied it to his series Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:23:29 AM 706 Views
But of course he did.. fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:13:07 PM 733 Views
I hate to get into these things HousealThor - 29/10/2012 05:45:50 PM 779 Views
I would love for you to be right, because it would solve all our problems, but 0 is the challenge... Shannow - 29/10/2012 07:56:34 PM 722 Views
In the truest sense, you are probably right that it is skewed HousealThor - 29/10/2012 08:20:52 PM 763 Views
Overwhelm Lanfear, not match her. *NM* fionwe1987 - 29/10/2012 08:26:09 PM 378 Views
Truth is, Moiraine was being overly optimistic... Shannow - 29/10/2012 08:39:17 PM 686 Views
You're pathetic... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 01:20:01 AM 617 Views
The quote isn't specific Sidious - 30/10/2012 08:32:36 AM 738 Views
Its highly specific... fionwe1987 - 30/10/2012 02:15:38 PM 568 Views
Yet neither of them are at full potential and at least equal a Forsaken darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 03:45:24 PM 1227 Views
Honestly! darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 02:07:37 AM 669 Views
Re: In the truest sense, you are probably right that it is skewed Tor - 29/10/2012 09:10:27 PM 669 Views
Lots of people mean perfectly normal distribution when they say it HousealThor - 30/10/2012 05:25:35 PM 622 Views
Couldn't the Towers method of obtaining Aes Sedai be to blame? TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 12:04:01 AM 807 Views
Re: Couldn't the Towers method of obtaining Aes Sedai be to blame? Tor - 30/10/2012 09:33:44 AM 739 Views
Are you sure about that? TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 12:03:43 PM 739 Views
Re: Are you sure about that? Tor - 30/10/2012 12:19:34 PM 652 Views
That doesn't seem a coherent narrative to me TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 04:26:25 PM 934 Views
Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:16:40 PM 747 Views
Re: Sharina did not have the Spark, nor did Nicola TheCrownless - 30/10/2012 05:54:41 PM 639 Views
We do not know if Cadsuane or any of the Forsaken are Sparkers darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 10:33:55 PM 765 Views
Re: We do not know if Cadsuane or any of the Forsaken are Sparkers TheCrownless - 31/10/2012 12:30:52 AM 715 Views
A handful of examples are all we have and we have proof that an extremely strong Channeler darius_sedai - 31/10/2012 02:58:57 AM 546 Views
you're confusing 2 things Zaphod - 30/10/2012 04:27:32 AM 799 Views
+1 *NM* Sidious - 30/10/2012 09:17:07 AM 732 Views
Re: you're confusing 2 things Simon - 30/10/2012 09:21:39 AM 725 Views
Not true... Shannow - 30/10/2012 11:49:57 AM 749 Views
One thing HousealThor - 30/10/2012 05:23:17 PM 713 Views
That's the problem. The BC RJ has "built" has a minimum and a maximum value darius_sedai - 30/10/2012 05:48:55 PM 728 Views
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