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Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications Sidious Send a noteboard - 25/10/2012 04:23:20 PM
3. Androl draws on Pevara's ability and starts to lift objects in the room. Most interestingly she cannot see the weaves even though he's weaving with saidar too. I was wondering whether this was a mistake. When Sammael linked with Graendal the Shaido Wise Ones said that she was weaving a barrier. He was using saidar and they could see it, though this chapter implies that if a male leads a circle he actually uses saidar to reinforce his weaves. In a way he 'converts' it to saidin... Pevara even wonders if he is filtering it.


Women can't see male weaves, and vice versa, but the leader of the circle can see both. The Wise Ones could only see the saidar, and therefore assumed that Graendal was weaving. Sammael, being far more experienced with the True Source, could probably weave saidar in a competent manner.


Pevara said that he was weaving with saidar though she could not see the weaves. She thought perhaps that he was filtering her power.

Sammael was definitely weaving with saidar. We've seen Semirhage weave with saidin.
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Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications - 24/10/2012 06:40:47 PM 2772 Views
Did Perva actually initiate the link or was it Androl? *NM* - 24/10/2012 07:02:15 PM 687 Views
Androl did. *NM* - 25/10/2012 05:10:31 AM 940 Views
But didn't Nynaeve do it first at the cleansing? - 25/10/2012 12:43:15 PM 1097 Views
Pevara was thinking on very sketchy information. - 25/10/2012 08:56:20 PM 1027 Views
did he start the link? or just take it? - 27/10/2012 07:33:49 AM 753 Views
I think it's slightly off - 28/10/2012 04:21:05 PM 1033 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications - 25/10/2012 05:13:43 AM 1249 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications - 25/10/2012 04:23:20 PM 1074 Views
Re: Ch2 : Pevara & Androl and channeling implications - 25/10/2012 09:52:03 PM 1125 Views
Travelling - 25/10/2012 08:56:41 AM 1113 Views
Yes that's a pet theory of mine - 25/10/2012 04:21:53 PM 1111 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine - 25/10/2012 06:12:21 PM 1022 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine - 25/10/2012 08:50:15 PM 981 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine - 25/10/2012 09:45:26 PM 1054 Views
Weren't there 150 or so at Maradon? *NM* - 26/10/2012 03:29:53 PM 601 Views
Re: Yes that's a pet theory of mine - 26/10/2012 08:49:58 PM 1164 Views
Perhaps, but if no on in the AoL could do it when mixed circles were common - 28/10/2012 04:22:20 PM 857 Views
How strong Pevara is... - 25/10/2012 07:08:26 PM 1190 Views
I'm pretty sure Moiraine is closer to 30... - 25/10/2012 07:41:37 PM 921 Views
Agreed - 25/10/2012 08:37:24 PM 1014 Views
So... the old story of ignore the bell curve, eh? - 26/10/2012 01:40:49 AM 969 Views
No, I fully respect the bell curve - 26/10/2012 01:51:34 PM 1026 Views
That was disproved long ago... - 26/10/2012 01:36:24 AM 959 Views
But Moiraine isn't 'exceptionally strong' - 26/10/2012 05:16:10 AM 1024 Views
Not particularly strong evidence for that last. - 26/10/2012 05:36:54 AM 973 Views
But we know that it takes significantly more strength to maintain multiple weaves - 26/10/2012 08:14:58 AM 894 Views
Not true - 27/10/2012 09:15:51 PM 899 Views
Not accurate - 27/10/2012 09:31:05 PM 904 Views
The Bell Curve explained... - 26/10/2012 10:27:34 AM 959 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... - 26/10/2012 11:40:04 AM 952 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... - 26/10/2012 12:32:01 PM 875 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... - 26/10/2012 12:48:51 PM 973 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... - 26/10/2012 01:07:39 PM 958 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... - 26/10/2012 01:18:32 PM 988 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... - 26/10/2012 01:57:18 PM 1050 Views
Re: The Bell Curve explained... - 28/10/2012 02:07:39 PM 740 Views
Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same - 27/10/2012 09:39:58 PM 1044 Views
The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same... - 28/10/2012 01:50:37 AM 882 Views
Re: The curve is OBVIOUSLY the same... - 28/10/2012 02:01:59 PM 930 Views
You need to go read RJ's quotes: - 28/10/2012 02:41:49 PM 948 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: - 28/10/2012 05:39:12 PM 859 Views
I need to come and save you from blatant fallacies being spouted by the loonies. - 28/10/2012 05:56:21 PM 848 Views
This is like watching a train-wreck. - 29/10/2012 02:58:51 AM 824 Views
Re: This is like watching a train-wreck. - 29/10/2012 01:10:35 PM 1028 Views
So what's your conclusion? - 29/10/2012 02:14:33 PM 796 Views
His conclusion is that RJ was right about the books he wrote... - 29/10/2012 02:19:59 PM 945 Views
Pretty much... - 30/10/2012 12:57:41 AM 1028 Views
Excellent points... - 29/10/2012 02:16:39 PM 790 Views
Re: Excellent points... - 29/10/2012 02:47:30 PM 915 Views
You seem confused. - 29/10/2012 03:22:47 PM 807 Views
Re: You seem confused. - 29/10/2012 03:41:48 PM 844 Views
I think the point is that the AS didn't go force every woman in the area - 29/10/2012 07:57:59 PM 808 Views
Re: You seem confused. - 29/10/2012 08:23:22 PM 933 Views
Re: You seem confused. - 29/10/2012 08:57:11 PM 935 Views
He drew graphs! - 30/10/2012 12:49:09 AM 820 Views
Re: He drew graphs! - 30/10/2012 07:43:54 AM 865 Views
Re: He drew graphs! - 30/10/2012 01:57:05 PM 855 Views
Re: Excellent points... - 30/10/2012 12:20:00 AM 859 Views
Re: Excellent points... - 30/10/2012 07:49:57 AM 890 Views
Re: Excellent points... - 30/10/2012 01:05:45 PM 1220 Views
Re: Excellent points... - 30/10/2012 01:25:11 PM 907 Views
Re: Excellent points... - 30/10/2012 12:20:17 AM 963 Views
AS recruiting is minimal - 28/10/2012 10:41:29 PM 885 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: - 29/10/2012 02:23:27 AM 864 Views
Re: You need to go read RJ's quotes: - 29/10/2012 07:33:44 AM 838 Views
Huh? - 29/10/2012 02:26:27 PM 847 Views
Re: Huh? - 29/10/2012 02:42:07 PM 840 Views
You don't seem to know what random means... - 29/10/2012 03:25:57 PM 845 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... - 29/10/2012 03:36:45 PM 885 Views
Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop - 29/10/2012 08:05:33 PM 888 Views
Re: Personally I just think that 1000 women being allowed to tag along is a drop - 29/10/2012 09:04:02 PM 900 Views
Geography alone can do this - 30/10/2012 12:39:53 AM 852 Views
Re: Geography alone can do this - 30/10/2012 09:45:58 AM 836 Views
Not really - 30/10/2012 02:49:05 PM 817 Views
Here's why its not random... - 30/10/2012 01:04:18 AM 813 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... - 30/10/2012 09:42:35 AM 963 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... - 30/10/2012 01:51:03 PM 812 Views
Re: Here's why its not random... - 30/10/2012 02:21:04 PM 869 Views
YEah, there's no point debating this... - 30/10/2012 02:46:39 PM 815 Views
Genetics plays a role - 30/10/2012 03:03:41 PM 962 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... - 29/10/2012 08:22:40 PM 812 Views
Re: You don't seem to know what random means... - 29/10/2012 09:06:08 PM 848 Views
Why must there be a mechanism? - 30/10/2012 01:06:29 AM 829 Views
Re: Why must there be a mechanism? - 30/10/2012 09:48:16 AM 754 Views
Nope... - 30/10/2012 01:43:56 PM 971 Views
Re: Nope... - 30/10/2012 02:34:51 PM 808 Views
Oh my... - 30/10/2012 02:50:12 PM 894 Views
Thought experment time! Hurrah! - 30/10/2012 03:27:01 PM 823 Views
But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results - 30/10/2012 03:30:59 PM 756 Views
Re: But it is still possible in your example to get wildly varied results - 30/10/2012 03:36:03 PM 859 Views
LOL - 30/10/2012 04:49:06 PM 1375 Views
Re: Yet Sharina, Nynaeve etc exist, thus the BC is the same - 28/10/2012 01:39:55 PM 825 Views
The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories - 28/10/2012 04:18:55 PM 860 Views
Re: The point is there are still people being born in the highest strength categories - 28/10/2012 05:21:44 PM 853 Views
The curve hasn't shifted! - 28/10/2012 05:39:42 PM 934 Views
The fact is, Moiraine is not half as strong as Lanfear, hence she is below average strength. - 28/10/2012 06:02:04 PM 866 Views
How is this fact? - 29/10/2012 02:59:49 AM 890 Views
Re: How is this fact? - 29/10/2012 07:04:15 PM 865 Views
Not so - 29/10/2012 08:09:29 PM 834 Views
Re: Not so - 29/10/2012 08:43:16 PM 908 Views
Sure it is - 30/10/2012 01:43:39 AM 796 Views
Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then... - 29/10/2012 08:20:14 PM 834 Views
Re: Explain Elza-Merise-Cadsuane then... - 29/10/2012 08:38:11 PM 855 Views
Are you blind man? - 30/10/2012 01:12:26 AM 876 Views
Re: Are you blind man? - 30/10/2012 09:23:37 AM 917 Views
Cadsuane is just below Egwene... - 30/10/2012 01:37:54 PM 839 Views
Your strength scores don't square with the Pevara quote - 30/10/2012 03:15:22 PM 842 Views
Re: The curve hasn't shifted! - 28/10/2012 07:36:36 PM 858 Views
On Raw strength scores I think you are pretty inline with my thinking - 27/10/2012 09:37:25 PM 1000 Views
And the facing a Foresaken comment is out of context anyway... - 28/10/2012 01:56:12 AM 961 Views
Excellent point on raw v. Effective strength *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:13:21 PM 601 Views

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