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It's certainly possible, though it might contribute to making it rather rare DomA Send a noteboard - 23/10/2012 10:55:07 PM
The debate has happened a number of times, some believing Sorilea and others Bair ... Personally I haven't seen any foreshadowing for Bair, but there have been a few comments that support Sorilea ... Red Herring?


The possibility ter'angreal would show current WO at least that there was no hope for their futures if they pursued the Shadow. At most you would get a fake darkfriend like Verin who the visions told must participate in the Shadow in order to accomplish a Light goal.


Remember most of what they see in there is forgotten, and that the Wise Ones go in there while they're very young, prior to beginning their WO training, when they do knot know the past of the Aiel or the role of the WO in shaping their future.

It's conceivable WO apprentices could be gradually lured to the Shadow by their mentor during their WO training, taught a Shadow perspective on all of that, prepared to face the test of the Columns and interpret it from that twisted perspective.

Being WO, having gone through both the rings and columns didn't stop the Shaido WO near Sevanna from being largely corrupted and having very twisted notions, rejecting the car'a'carn and so on. None of them seemed to have realized they doomed themselves and their clan going on that path. It would presumably be little different for some DF. A lot of people tend to interpret things according to their belief system, down to denying any evidence they're wrong.

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Misc observations from my latest re-read - 14/10/2012 08:26:37 PM 2827 Views
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Degree of slowing is the same as how long they will live - 14/10/2012 09:22:23 PM 1175 Views
Re: Degree of slowing is the same as how long they will live - 14/10/2012 09:36:19 PM 1003 Views
Not in the mood to deal with you ... Go read the Ages section of 13th Depository - 14/10/2012 09:53:14 PM 1010 Views
Not interested in Linda's private theories. - 15/10/2012 02:29:41 AM 1156 Views
And there's Sorilea... - 15/10/2012 02:53:15 AM 1219 Views
Perhaps, but Bair is in her 80s and can't channel at all - 15/10/2012 03:09:35 AM 971 Views
Problem is... - 14/10/2012 11:52:00 PM 1132 Views
Again, my point isn't about motivations for Elaida or Gitara ... that is clear - 15/10/2012 12:07:49 AM 968 Views
Show me where in the books an adviser is selected by Tower authorities! - 15/10/2012 02:58:19 AM 991 Views
Yet look what happens the minute a Stronger woman showed up - 15/10/2012 03:19:18 AM 935 Views
Re: Yet look what happens the minute a Stronger woman showed up - 15/10/2012 03:35:10 AM 1081 Views
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He was banging the queen - 15/10/2012 04:19:24 AM 950 Views
And what Aes Sedai gave him permission to bang the queen? - 15/10/2012 04:30:42 AM 1195 Views
here ya go - 15/10/2012 04:39:29 AM 1051 Views
There's an awful lot for "not many" - 15/10/2012 05:07:30 AM 981 Views
When did I say I bought into Linda's theories? - 15/10/2012 05:29:27 AM 919 Views
Re: Again, my point isn't about motivations for Elaida or Gitara ... that is clear - 15/10/2012 03:15:18 AM 1033 Views
The thing is Elaida had no experience in the arena at all - 15/10/2012 03:25:10 AM 976 Views
IT IS NOT THE TOWER'S DAMNED JOB! She had more than enough credentials for ANDOR - 15/10/2012 03:45:15 AM 992 Views
Nope. Every other advisor we've seen has been sent from TV - 15/10/2012 03:50:07 AM 976 Views
Those are not official advisers, those are ambassadors! - 15/10/2012 04:17:51 AM 1029 Views
So now you are saying that Elaida was a personal advisor not an envoy of the Tower? - 15/10/2012 04:22:31 AM 949 Views
Finally! I was beginning to despair of your literacy! - 15/10/2012 04:34:18 AM 1044 Views
now I am questioning your literacy *NM* - 15/10/2012 04:40:45 AM 667 Views
She didn't "land it". She took the job for herself... - 15/10/2012 04:00:35 AM 977 Views
Actually every advisor we've seen except Elaida has been appointed - 15/10/2012 04:11:39 AM 989 Views
You can bully someone into an act, not a twenty year relationship - 15/10/2012 04:22:16 AM 1105 Views
Not arguing that Morgase had a problem with her - 15/10/2012 04:33:10 AM 923 Views
We know nothing of the sort. - 15/10/2012 05:14:54 AM 917 Views
Prove that Elaida's post was not Tower sanctioned - 15/10/2012 05:39:23 AM 1019 Views
Re: Prove that Elaida's post was not Tower sanctioned - 17/10/2012 04:15:37 AM 1040 Views
Egwene said otherwise DomA,... - 17/10/2012 05:33:01 AM 999 Views
Re: Egwene said otherwise DomA,... - 17/10/2012 01:01:47 PM 1084 Views
Just to be clear - 17/10/2012 03:58:58 PM 923 Views
Re: Egwene said otherwise DomA,... - 18/10/2012 01:23:48 AM 1018 Views
Elayne's thoughts about this - 17/10/2012 04:16:38 PM 971 Views
And an answer to the rest of your "points" - 15/10/2012 02:48:07 AM 1178 Views
Again. I refer you to Linda's blog. The relevant quotes are there ... Enjoy - 15/10/2012 02:52:03 AM 977 Views
Oh for the love of...! Here's the relevant quote: - 15/10/2012 04:04:48 AM 1061 Views
Okay, but that's still irrelevant to the Oath Rod & its cutoff period or method, as well as lifespan - 15/10/2012 04:54:26 AM 979 Views
To quote you RTDB - 15/10/2012 05:16:56 AM 925 Views
Re: To quote you RTDB - 15/10/2012 05:27:47 AM 993 Views
Some people look young. - 15/10/2012 05:51:25 AM 888 Views
I never mentioned the OR... - 16/10/2012 01:38:48 AM 995 Views
RJ said Sharina would go back to about middle aged - 16/10/2012 02:23:21 AM 821 Views
And that is probably the ONLY quote that wasn't on Linda's page *NM* - 15/10/2012 04:55:33 AM 592 Views
Told you so. *NM* - 15/10/2012 05:21:58 AM 694 Views
I think so. - 16/11/2012 11:40:17 AM 1151 Views
Aging - 15/10/2012 06:08:47 PM 993 Views
How old was Lanfear? - 14/10/2012 08:41:35 PM 1012 Views
Re: How old was Lanfear? - 14/10/2012 11:27:12 PM 1109 Views
I couldn't find it - 15/10/2012 12:22:43 AM 1003 Views
Are the Seanchan prophesies false? - 14/10/2012 08:43:55 PM 1161 Views
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Not the same thing - 14/10/2012 09:44:43 PM 989 Views
Show me some damn PROOF already!! - 15/10/2012 03:19:18 AM 1133 Views
Re: I've only been saying no for years. - 14/10/2012 10:15:29 PM 1197 Views
Your argument is based on a faulty premise. - 15/10/2012 08:11:19 PM 850 Views
Of course there is truth... - 14/10/2012 09:42:24 PM 1077 Views
Didn't know Bsand had confirmed the corruption. Thanks for sharing - 14/10/2012 10:02:40 PM 1031 Views
Re: Didn't know Bsand had confirmed the corruption. Thanks for sharing - 14/10/2012 10:23:17 PM 1027 Views
Hmmm ...I like it! It is actually very similar to what Nynaeve does - 14/10/2012 10:31:48 PM 1116 Views
How do the Black Ajah not figure out who the others are? - 14/10/2012 08:48:14 PM 1021 Views
Who says they can't? - 14/10/2012 09:23:11 PM 1022 Views
True to a point - 14/10/2012 10:00:01 PM 920 Views
Was Sheriam ranking? Would many of them have met her? Not everyone even gets to meet the SC. - 15/10/2012 03:23:16 AM 988 Views
Perhaps not. But a woman like Sheriam would stick out - 15/10/2012 03:37:12 AM 939 Views
Re: Was Sheriam ranking? Would many of them have met her? Not everyone even gets to meet the SC. - 15/10/2012 03:52:39 AM 994 Views
But isn't it interesting that Sheriam and Galina, both young and strong are on the SC? - 15/10/2012 04:06:38 AM 885 Views
Galina isn't young. *NM* - 17/10/2012 03:24:30 AM 674 Views
Yes she is - 17/10/2012 03:46:39 PM 1032 Views
85 years being BA, 90 years as a sister does not qualify her as a "young AS" - 18/10/2012 05:35:33 PM 1003 Views
She is not dissimilar to Sheriam when she made her rise IMO - 18/10/2012 06:53:54 PM 947 Views
Re: She is not dissimilar to Sheriam when she made her rise IMO - 18/10/2012 08:10:58 PM 995 Views
I think Linda is correct in this particular instance - 19/10/2012 02:14:23 AM 1065 Views
You mean the SC? - 14/10/2012 10:47:31 PM 1038 Views
No others meet as well - 14/10/2012 11:01:21 PM 1041 Views
Re: No others meet as well - 14/10/2012 11:36:50 PM 1007 Views
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Re: Yet rank and file BA have methods of communicating - 15/10/2012 03:26:59 AM 951 Views
I concede that the rank and file likely don't meet in large groups - 15/10/2012 04:54:04 AM 918 Views
Re: I concede that the rank and file likely don't meet in large groups - 15/10/2012 02:28:45 PM 1034 Views
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Re: I agree that RJ probably had some thing up his sleeve - 15/10/2012 05:57:04 PM 1137 Views
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Re: I have a different opinion of Delana - 16/10/2012 11:51:34 PM 938 Views
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Re: Egwene only notes Alviarin as the Head. Verin may not have even mentioned or know who was SC - 18/10/2012 03:40:54 PM 875 Views
Give the sign to a woman and see how she reacts - 18/10/2012 06:57:38 PM 1012 Views
Re: Give the sign to a woman and see how she reacts - 18/10/2012 07:26:56 PM 930 Views
Not a good plan, I'll give you that - 18/10/2012 07:37:45 PM 1071 Views
*sigh* - 18/10/2012 08:25:23 PM 1016 Views
*double sigh* - 19/10/2012 04:03:00 AM 943 Views
Re: *double sigh* - 19/10/2012 05:48:25 PM 967 Views
Agreed *NM* - 20/10/2012 04:57:18 PM 587 Views
Re: Egwene only notes Alviarin as the Head. Verin may not have even mentioned or know who was SC - 18/10/2012 04:59:25 PM 1051 Views
Not conclusive ... in fact the whole bit is vague ... I wonder if RJ would have given us more detail - 18/10/2012 07:23:30 PM 1028 Views
Not conclusive? - 18/10/2012 08:49:49 PM 898 Views
Don't put words in my mouth that I never said - 19/10/2012 04:08:22 AM 890 Views
double post *NM* - 19/10/2012 04:08:22 AM 586 Views
Is there a Dark Friend WO? - 14/10/2012 08:51:16 PM 1090 Views
Re: Is there a Dark Friend WO? - 17/10/2012 08:33:27 PM 1120 Views
I'd like to see more discussion on this; I'm curious as well - 18/10/2012 12:44:35 AM 894 Views
Just a note about Bair - 18/10/2012 07:53:45 AM 1026 Views
I don't see how it could be possible - 23/10/2012 09:31:51 PM 898 Views
It's certainly possible, though it might contribute to making it rather rare - 23/10/2012 10:55:07 PM 967 Views
Galad and Gaywn ... Channlers? - 14/10/2012 10:47:55 PM 1172 Views
Re: Galad and Gaywn ... Channlers? - 14/10/2012 11:36:25 PM 1096 Views

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