Partially it's an effect of the end of any series of books. Even if RJ had lived to complete his series we would likely be bitching. There will always be fans who don't like the outcome the author has written. Cannoli will spend the next 20 years bitching about Egwene no matter what she does in AMOL ... He hates the character and will find new and inventive ways to vilify her ... Doesn't matter who wrote her last words in the series. I'll never like Cadsuane or be happy that Moiraine came back from the 'Finns so weak in the Power. I hate that Egwene is with Gawyn, or that Min can't channel and will die hundreds of years before Rand, Avi and Elayne ... Many people wanted Verin to live or Galina to die or Siuan and Leane to be Healed to full strength. The list is endless and we all have our things ... Sanderson just gets the double dose because he's not the original author!
You're talking about events in the books as opposed to the style and quality of presentation. It's like blaming Shakespeare's play on a junior high drama class's inept performance.
I will never base my assessment of the series on how it ends with and for Egwene. She could end up as God-Empress of the world and as long as it was plausibly done, it would be satisfied. I am a history buff - happy endings are just not in it for me, and I don't judge a book based on whether I like what happens. The important thing is how WELL the story is told. Not one of my complaints about Sanderson's writing has anything to do with what happens or what choices or decisions the characters make, and I would like to think the same is true for most of you. Sanderson has nothing to do with Moiraine coming back weak (though considering the level of channelers emerging, it's not like she's stepped down from the top anymore, and she does have the angreal she bargained for) or Verin dying and the only thing he'll have to do with Egwene's rise, fall or comeuppance (chances are, if the latter is forthcoming, I still will not enjoy it, due to how ineptly it will be expressed).
Complaints about the story and about the writing are two different things. Let's try not to get them mixed up.
You said it yourself ... I will never base my assessment of the series on how it ends with and for Egwene. She could end up as God-Empress of the world and as long as it was plausibly done, it would be satisfied.
The point being Sanderson is not telling the story well, which is muddying the story elements which is pissing people off. And many others have complained of RJs writing style as well ... I'm making the point to Dark Knight that those of us complaining about the writing aren't all "jealous" of Sanderson's fame. The story elements are at the mercy of Sanderson's writing style.
Domani Drag Queen in the White Tower ... Aran'gar watch out!
This message last edited by darius_sedai on 30/09/2012 at 10:02:38 PM
If you have to call someone "my friend" three times in a couple of minutes, he isn't.
28/09/2012 11:59:13 AM
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The only people I've ever heard say "my friend" are foreign street vendors
28/09/2012 01:19:00 PM
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Sanderson's handling of character interractions is pathetic....
28/09/2012 06:43:48 PM
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Now see, here I don't fully agree, or at least think it's a matter of taste.
28/09/2012 07:21:09 PM
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Sorry, that's just not true...
28/09/2012 11:33:59 PM
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I posted something very similar at DM. Reposting...
28/09/2012 11:46:07 PM
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I complained about this regarding the Forsaken chapter
28/09/2012 07:34:25 PM
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I've long since accepted that Sanderson uses inaccurate terms like "powerful"
29/09/2012 05:44:11 AM
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To be fair, the last Moghedian PoV by RJ might have changed her a bit.
29/09/2012 03:27:31 PM
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Yes. The last time it happened to me it ended with the taxi driver fined by the NYPD.
29/09/2012 07:05:26 AM
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The burning question to me, after reading all of the comments above, is this...
29/09/2012 08:50:50 AM
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Piggybacking on someone else's established characters and near-climax-point plot?
29/09/2012 03:04:03 PM
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Both of you disgust me
29/09/2012 04:13:16 PM
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To be fair...
29/09/2012 04:36:52 PM
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True ... He may not be perfect, and he certainly made some strange choices
29/09/2012 05:37:29 PM
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B-Sand is not a ghost writer
29/09/2012 06:35:16 PM
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Didn't say he should.
29/09/2012 09:07:45 PM
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What is it you want?
29/09/2012 09:39:36 PM
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We want to bitch about an inferior product. Duh.
29/09/2012 10:00:09 PM
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Hmm that's true I guess. Sad though *NM*
29/09/2012 10:07:25 PM
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It is what it is
30/09/2012 12:52:20 AM
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Those are not remotely the same thing
30/09/2012 09:14:49 PM
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But they are the same in this instance
30/09/2012 10:01:59 PM
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You do know this isn't his series, right?
29/09/2012 04:19:00 PM
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Do you see us going to Mistborn boards to rip his series? Part of the problem is what you say.
29/09/2012 09:57:54 PM
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Apologies for not being clear: I'm only referring to WoT. Haven't read any of his other work...
30/09/2012 06:56:08 PM
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I'd agree that I like his original works more than his WoT books
01/10/2012 06:17:33 PM
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It's fairly simple....
30/09/2012 09:55:52 PM
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Thanks for that insightful response...
30/09/2012 10:37:27 PM
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Try reading something instead of judging. I recommend the Mistborn trilogy *NM*
01/10/2012 01:14:24 AM
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It's more...
01/10/2012 01:05:18 PM
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Re: The burning question to me, after reading all of the comments above, is this...
11/10/2012 08:22:27 PM
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I have an acquaintance who uses "my friend" as punctuation of every sentence.
05/10/2012 02:47:40 PM
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