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Re: But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. DomA Send a noteboard - 28/09/2009 07:53:46 PM
Discussing the content of leaked copies/illegally obtained copies is at the very least a very good way to get on the publisher's bad side and the publishers would be perfectly in their legal rights to take measures to have these reviews/spoilers removed from sites hosting them. I know it's the case for movie spoilers - I've signed enough NDA in two decades for the stuff I work on to know this - and I don't see why it wouldn't be the same for books that are protected by the same laws.


That's true. Although I think Tor do need to get a bit of a grip. This isn't the new JK Rowling or Dan Brown or Stephen King. Strictly enforcing street dates and refusing to let anyone review the book before it comes out, especially in the current situation with a new author taking over, is a brilliant way of reducing first-week sales until people wait to hear if it's any good or not (Jason's review not being regarded very well, it has to be said).


From what I heard it's a decision from Harriet enforced by Doherty to keep a blanket of secrecy over the content of TGS for fans who have waited so long for the book. I'm guessing for the rest, but I think the marketing folks and publicists have been asked to be imaginative to promote the book and work around the fact they can't do an ARC campaign etc. It might be a reason why they've released two chapters already, so everyone can make their own idea.

Tor didn't turn us down when we discussed with someone there the possibility to get the book a week or so before release, but the answer was something in the vein of "I'd love to if I can, but I'm not able to give you a definitive answer on this yet.". And we didn't ask, they're the ones who reached to us about our TGS coverage.

It's not a matter of not knowing if they'll even get the book in time, they were supposed to have the first copies very soon, if not already.

I thought that's what we were talking about: did we want reviews (spoilery or otherwise) a couple of days before the book was coming out?


From what I understand, it's more than many people claim they have or are about to have the book and want to post reviews soon.
From all I've heard so far, it's not very likely - or not legit review copies anyway.

that the book will be on shelves anything up to a week before its official date, so reviews and spoilers will start appearing then anyway.


It's more likely to happen in the UK perhaps? I don't recall what happened before. From the little I know of the US/Canadian distribution system, it's not so likely unless there's a mistake, because except for exceptional releases they need to work a lot on (say, like Potter and Brown), the chains tend to keep the books at central storage until they're about ready to put them on the shelves in the stores, a day, two before street dates. It's more frequent here to have the opposite and some bookstores missing the street date because the get the books so late that if there's a mistake in shipment they need a day to correct it. I got 75% off and 30% off on another book for quite a few (5 or 6) titles like this in the last years - it's what the book chain I shop at do when they miss a street date. Not being a fool, I started shopping more often on release days.
This message last edited by DomA on 28/09/2009 at 07:58:09 PM
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Do you guys want pre-release reviews on this board? - 20/09/2009 08:40:03 AM 1668 Views
Yes. - 20/09/2009 11:56:22 AM 1013 Views
Sorry wrong place. *NM* - 20/09/2009 05:31:27 PM 447 Views
Yes - 20/09/2009 01:12:18 PM 944 Views
No. *NM* - 20/09/2009 01:26:48 PM 452 Views
No, I prefer to see them after the 27th. - 20/09/2009 01:42:38 PM 795 Views
They don't have to read them if they don't want to *NM* - 21/09/2009 01:54:30 AM 449 Views
NO! *NM* - 20/09/2009 02:05:47 PM 497 Views
No *NM* - 20/09/2009 02:22:15 PM 547 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 03:08:41 PM 499 Views
Yes please! *NM* - 20/09/2009 03:40:41 PM 510 Views
NO *NM* - 20/09/2009 04:16:55 PM 451 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 04:17:32 PM 500 Views
Re: Do you guys want pre-release reviews on this board? - 20/09/2009 05:33:49 PM 810 Views
I just hate getting interupted. even if I'm at work *NM* - 21/09/2009 06:12:13 PM 443 Views
Sorry wrong place *NM* - 21/09/2009 06:12:54 PM 455 Views
We need them to maintain the spike in activity. - 20/09/2009 05:34:14 PM 921 Views
YES. *NM* - 20/09/2009 05:44:48 PM 465 Views
Can anyone who voted no explain why? - 20/09/2009 05:51:51 PM 824 Views
Yes, why not? - 20/09/2009 06:18:42 PM 1111 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 06:30:54 PM 433 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 06:39:34 PM 436 Views
Yes. I see no reason not to. *NM* - 20/09/2009 07:08:47 PM 444 Views
No, I'll just read them and then go regretting it *NM* - 20/09/2009 07:18:27 PM 487 Views
Yes! - 20/09/2009 07:30:59 PM 820 Views
yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 07:46:37 PM 494 Views
Yes - 20/09/2009 08:34:03 PM 761 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 10:08:42 PM 449 Views
Yes *NM* - 20/09/2009 10:17:51 PM 449 Views
Yes- Give ppl the option to see the reviews *NM* - 21/09/2009 12:03:27 AM 444 Views
Yes *NM* - 21/09/2009 12:33:13 AM 418 Views
I vote yes. - 21/09/2009 04:21:28 AM 852 Views
Yes - 21/09/2009 06:12:37 AM 814 Views
Yes - 21/09/2009 09:32:56 AM 804 Views
Yes. Don't click the link if you don't want to read it. *NM* - 21/09/2009 02:39:16 PM 474 Views
No - 21/09/2009 06:15:19 PM 883 Views
I think you missread the rules... - 21/09/2009 08:24:22 PM 1345 Views
so you want to give the admins all kinds of extra work? - 22/09/2009 02:16:56 AM 849 Views
I'm strongly against it - 22/09/2009 05:06:13 AM 999 Views
I hadn't thought about all that, you should have made some kind of pros and cons list - 22/09/2009 08:53:39 AM 935 Views
Re: I'm strongly against it - 22/09/2009 11:45:26 AM 846 Views
So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 12:03:16 PM 825 Views
Re: So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 12:16:57 PM 984 Views
Re: So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 12:42:55 PM 1222 Views
Re: So are you going to be the one to enforce this? - 22/09/2009 01:20:58 PM 820 Views
Re: I'm strongly against it - 22/09/2009 02:39:55 PM 1001 Views
As I mentioned elsewhere - 22/09/2009 02:51:00 PM 745 Views
I had no idea about these legalities. - 22/09/2009 05:44:18 PM 819 Views
Re: I had no idea about these legalities. - 22/09/2009 06:25:20 PM 713 Views
Good to know. - 22/09/2009 10:19:57 PM 927 Views
I'm shitfitng to no too. Hope more people change their votes. - 22/09/2009 10:34:22 PM 1052 Views
Re: Good to know. - 22/09/2009 11:01:35 PM 850 Views
Interesting - 23/09/2009 12:16:38 AM 944 Views
How much is that infamous COT review to blame? - 24/09/2009 05:01:29 AM 731 Views
Well, Rand IS a transvestite - not exactly a spoiler anymore. - 22/09/2009 08:29:12 AM 820 Views
No, no, no, no, no! *NM* - 21/09/2009 06:31:22 PM 420 Views
You're going to ban/forbid spoiler filled reviews? Weak. - 22/09/2009 08:26:15 AM 785 Views
Ever hear of Napster? - 22/09/2009 12:11:02 PM 746 Views
But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 23/09/2009 12:36:35 AM 918 Views
Sounds right to me. - 23/09/2009 12:27:57 PM 1004 Views
Thank you for the clarification. - 23/09/2009 07:04:13 PM 803 Views
Re: But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 23/09/2009 07:33:11 PM 1062 Views
Re: But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 27/09/2009 02:41:11 AM 866 Views
Re: But that only applies to piracy of the actual book itself. - 28/09/2009 07:53:46 PM 814 Views
Baloney. The two are not related at all. *NM* - 23/09/2009 07:00:47 PM 465 Views
Yes, as long as no-spoiler policy is employed. *NM* - 23/09/2009 12:04:41 AM 427 Views
No *NM* - 25/09/2009 07:05:03 AM 431 Views

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