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Re: Promising... Terez Send a noteboard - 17/07/2012 03:38:49 PM
The concept of the scene is good - the tone shows well the change in Rand and Perrin for one thing - it's just the topic of conversation that's odd. There's so many other light topics to chat about and have a laugh, no need to rehash something they already discussed, not in a book at least (as in RL friends do this all the time). It was a good occasion to show these two are more mature too.

I guess Brandon thought that scene seemed to fit naturally, oblivious to the fact he had that impression because there was this other one much like it he forgot about, the last time Perrin and Rand talked of the TR together...


Yeah, which is why I have a feeling it was mentioned. But since technically we have no reason to believe that particular point was covered in their LOC conversation, there was no pressing reason to change it. RJ's description of the conversation was mostly vague. It jarred me mostly because there are so many important things to catch up on that have happened since then that it seems very strange for them to be sitting around talking about old times, especially seeing as how they've done that before in LOC.

I suspect that the wording was slightly different when Brandon wrote it, and that Maria or someone else also remembered that Moridin said the vintners of the Third Age made 'excellent wines', and that the wording was then changed.


It's the whole "grapes / don't match / wines" formulation that's incorrect and that an editor normally ought to have caught. TOM was especially full of annoying sentences or semantic errors like this, and I was hoping with the extra time Harriet would have caught them this time...

Brandon either meant that few vineyards in this Age could produce vintages comparable to the best of the AOL or that the quality of the grapes in this Age can't produce wine that match the AOL's best wines, but either way it's the sentence he wrote that's meaningless and non sensical. Not Brandon's first weirdly worded comment on wine or its taste or characteristics (most of the others not in WOT) - not a mormon's best area of expertise I guess!

(I remember Moridin's opinion, but don't forget in KOD Graendal the hedonist thought what Moridin served, while fine, didn't match the kind of vintages served at the Ansaline Gardens. It sounds like LTT just leans more toward her opinion than Moridin's).


Ah, technically that was Aran'gar. Also something of a hedonist, but generally strapped for cash. :D Graendal thought highly of Moridin's wine in the TGS prologue.

There were certainly a few distracting points in this passage, obviously, and presumably because of that, it wasn't until about the third time I read it that I saw there was some really good stuff, too.


It's certainly not as bad as many passages in TOM, but not on par either with scenes from the prologue (one of which was good enough to fool me RJ wrote it when it was confirmed later Brandon did).


For whatever reason, I never suspected the Bayrd scene was written by RJ. It reminded me of Androl, particularly with the craftsmanship thing. I think the prose in the wind scene itself was better, but it started to go off the wall a bit when the scene settled on Rand. The Bayrd scene thankfully didn't have any major distractions.
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