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Re: Ummm... what? rAndy aL Send a noteboard - 28/09/2009 06:31:21 AM

Just like the Aes Sedai have near AoL-level training in channeling.

But the Aes Sedai lost a lot of skill, forgot many weaves and did not have continuous training for 3500 years.
The WO do. It is made clear that even during the Breaking, the Wise Ones used the Dream to communicate, and had Aes Sedai around to train them anyway. What they know continues from the AoL. Its not a matter of knowledge lost and found again in bits and pieces.
Anyway, even the worst AoL atrocities we have heard of, the WO merely refuse to use. Not once have they mentioned inability to do something in TAR, or lost Talents.


I don't think the WOs actually taught each other how to do the AoL atrocities, but wouldn't talk about these as lost Talents because they wouldn't ever want to do them. I will admit that the AS were a bad example, because they lost too much in the Breaking and don't teach each other enough.

It wouldn't surprise me if they could match some of the less skilled Forsaken, but some of the best from the AoL?

Why ever not? The Sea Folk can beat not just the best, but several of the best of the AoL working with powerful ter'angreal in the degree to which they can control the weather.


True, this is an area that wasn't needed in the AoL. Those ter'angreal were much more common, so large effects with a single ter'angreal were not necessary. (And I would harldy call the Forsaken skilled at weather control.)

What evidence do you have that the WO are incapable in TAR? Lanfear completely scorns AS their lack of training, but says no such thing about the WO.
It seems clear to me that they can give many of the Forsaken a run for their money. Maybe not Moggy, because they tell Egwene she is far stronger than them in the Dream and she seems capable of matching Moggy.


Egwene can match Moggy in a straight fight. But since Moggy doesn't fight like that, she could not beat Moggy without somehow finding her first; and it's only a matter of time before Moggy tries to outright kill her instead of trapping her.

Lanfear does make comments about the WOs to Rand, but that could mean anything.
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