He had an Hier and would have been a King in his own right if he passed on Morgase offer. Also it is well known that SHE neede HIM to solidify her claim to the Andoran throne ... Se was the weaker party for a decade, so, why if he was still the Hier to Laman, would he become a Trakand?
He never became a Trakand. Marrying into another House doesn't change your name apparently, just decides what names your children will have.
A man like Taringail would have moved back to Cairhien and set himself up a power base as the Hier as soon as Tigrain "widowed" him ... Unless there was some legal/published reason for him not to. Also, we have not once heard him refers to as Taringail Trakand ... Always Damodred, just like Galad. It seems far more likely that the opposite of what you suggest is what happened. Morgase needed Taringail to solidify the Throne and thus allowed him and his son to revert to Damodred upon their marriage.
She allowed him to become a Damodred, only to marry into Trakand? Read again Dobraine's quote. He feels Morghase should have married into Damodred, and that she needed Taringail enough that he could have forced her to do it.
What likely happened is this:
Laman was still interested in preserving the peace with Andor, and wanted Taringail married to the next Queen of Andor. We also know, from the guide, that Laman wanted his favored nephew to be co-ruler of Andor, and eventually sole ruler. That last was likely why Taringail married into Trakand. He saw that Morghase was weak, and he thought that by marrying into the Royal House, he could eventually gain enough support to kill her and assume the throne himself.
Here's the quote on Laman wanting Taringail to be co-ruler:
A pebble slipping on a mountaintop can begin an avalanche, even when it was right and necessary that the pebble slip. Morgase’s failure to soothe Taringail’s ego was such a pebble. In Cairhien, Laman’s desire to see his nephew not merely co-ruler, but sole ruler, of Andor was well known; such things are difficult to hide in Cairhien, where children play the Game of Houses with their dolls and toy soldiers. That Taringail was in no way Morgase’s equal in rule quickly became public knowledge in Cairhien, and among those who play the Game of Houses as Cairhienin do, such a small, possibly even temporary, failure is seen as a weakness. Plots were born to unseat Laman, and he hatched his own schemes to counter them. As a minor part of one of his schemes, Laman cut down Avendoraldera to make a throne which could never be duplicated, it was thought. The tree was cut down, and the avalanche began.
There's a good explanation for why he married into Trakand. He never married into Mantear because there was no chance of him taking over from Tigraine, whose political position was far more secure. Of course, Laman and Taringail plotted without accounting for one Thomadril Merillin and Morghase's own great leadership skills.
I assume political machinations stripped them both of the Sun Throne, even if they had the best claim.
This is true for Galad, not Taringail. The Law of Cairhein prevented him from becoming King.
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21/05/2012 06:44:26 PM
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Thoughts...
21/05/2012 06:46:41 PM
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Re: Thoughts...
21/05/2012 08:45:41 PM
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Re: Thoughts...
21/05/2012 09:04:09 PM
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Re: Thoughts...
21/05/2012 09:35:29 PM
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Mat and the madness...
21/05/2012 10:30:09 PM
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Nynaeve's revelation may make the AS even more worried of Rand being mad
21/05/2012 10:58:37 PM
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Not Egwene though...
21/05/2012 11:02:41 PM
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Maybe, maybe not ... Nynaeve just gave everyone proof of the extent of his possible madness
21/05/2012 11:26:41 PM
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Re: Maybe, maybe not ... Nynaeve just gave everyone proof of the extent of his possible madness
22/05/2012 01:14:05 AM
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Re: Mat and the madness...
22/05/2012 02:29:31 AM
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Rand's dreams...
22/05/2012 02:42:36 AM
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She assumes he's mad just like most people assume a 19 year old boy is horney
22/05/2012 03:47:49 AM
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Everything Egwene's little pea-brain does not grasp has always been a sign of madness to her.
21/05/2012 11:05:44 PM
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Oh read the books will you?
21/05/2012 11:12:06 PM
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I'd rather not. For different reasons, it's kind of painful to read those by either author.
22/05/2012 04:46:20 AM
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What caught my eye there was "Trollocs seize Caemlyn."
22/05/2012 02:12:25 PM
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As much as I would love Moiraine to go with him to Ebou Dar
22/05/2012 07:20:40 PM
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At this stage, all roads lead to Rand.
22/05/2012 09:08:42 PM
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Re: At this stage, all roads lead to Rand.
23/05/2012 08:07:56 PM
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Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon.
23/05/2012 08:53:53 PM
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Re: Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon.
23/05/2012 09:01:10 PM
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It all depends on whether the actual Crystal Throne is, as many suspect, a ter'angreal.
23/05/2012 09:22:47 PM
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Re: It all depends on whether the actual Crystal Throne is, as many suspect, a ter'angreal.
24/05/2012 07:34:40 AM
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Re: It all depends on whether the actual Crystal Throne is, as many suspect, a ter'angreal.
25/05/2012 01:23:21 AM
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Re: Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon.
24/05/2012 02:41:55 PM
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Aviendha's visions from Rhuidean indicate he will kneel...
24/05/2012 07:04:02 PM
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Re: Aviendha's visions from Rhuidean indicate he will kneel...
26/05/2012 09:42:20 PM
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Agreed...
26/05/2012 09:57:06 PM
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I think you are extrapolating some of his actions into more than he intends
26/05/2012 10:37:44 PM
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Re: Agreed...
27/05/2012 04:26:15 AM
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I think you're both wrong...
27/05/2012 08:41:50 AM
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I'm sure that is part of it, but I very much doubt he is thinking in terms of succession
27/05/2012 01:41:37 PM
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I can't believe Galad will be accepted as a ruler since he is the Lord Captain Commander
28/05/2012 02:48:26 AM
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Re: I can't believe Galad will be accepted as a ruler since he is the Lord Captain Commander
28/05/2012 04:54:46 PM
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That makes no sense
28/05/2012 05:50:16 PM
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Taringail was Laman's heir...
28/05/2012 07:20:07 PM
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You are answering the wrong question
29/05/2012 02:19:48 PM
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No. I've answered the exact question. You seem to have missed it.
29/05/2012 04:40:17 PM
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Yet not one of these things actually happened
29/05/2012 10:13:35 PM
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You're being absurd...
30/05/2012 01:04:36 AM
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Explain why Taringail didn't become King after Laman's death then
30/05/2012 05:48:48 AM
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30/05/2012 06:11:02 AM
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Why then would Taringail, an ambitious man, renounce a Throne?
30/05/2012 06:22:08 AM
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We don't fully know...
30/05/2012 06:43:30 AM
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You just flipped your last statement
30/05/2012 06:55:36 AM
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You seem extremely confused...
30/05/2012 09:56:30 AM
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Not confused, simply not satisfied with the information we have
30/05/2012 12:15:59 PM
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Re: Not confused, simply not satisfied with the information we have
30/05/2012 03:34:06 PM
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I am not contesting the information we have
30/05/2012 04:48:08 PM
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You're impossible...
30/05/2012 10:02:59 PM
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Re: Explain why Taringail didn't become King after Laman's death then
30/05/2012 02:22:21 PM
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See this maps back to my original stance ... Thanks for pointing out that Fionwe invented that
30/05/2012 05:09:14 PM
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Good, now you have one last thing (a few inches long) to remember so everything becomes clear....
30/05/2012 10:50:33 PM
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Re: That makes no sense
29/05/2012 04:39:45 PM
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Only one other thing...
29/05/2012 04:53:29 PM
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No. If that was the case Taringail would have been King of Cairhien and not have married Morgase *NM*
30/05/2012 05:52:18 AM
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Bryne was Captain General not First Prince and Taringail was Prince Consort not FP
30/05/2012 06:07:48 AM
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Bryne was First Prince Regent.
30/05/2012 06:19:33 AM
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No Forsaken will go near that Ter'angreal
26/05/2012 10:33:20 PM
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Re: No Forsaken will go near that Ter'angreal
27/05/2012 03:23:12 AM
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Aviendha reprogrammed the ter'angreal
27/05/2012 01:50:19 PM
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27/05/2012 06:44:41 PM
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I'd have to re-read to be 100% certain, but the way I read the passage
28/05/2012 02:10:14 AM
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Re: I'd have to re-read to be 100% certain, but the way I read the passage
28/05/2012 03:33:18 PM
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I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one *NM*
28/05/2012 05:18:40 PM
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He might not literally kneel before the ter'angreal, but almost certainly must meet with Tuon soon.
25/05/2012 03:40:54 AM
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