Bryne was Captain General not First Prince and Taringail was Prince Consort not FP
darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 30/05/2012 06:07:48 AM
And since Morgase had no brother it's possible there is a contingency for FP.
Also, Elayne tells Gawyn his duty as FP includes being Captain General, but it's clear that there are other duties since she published that he was free of them at her will.
The point I am making is that Taringail should have succeeded Laman and Galad after him once Tigraine vanished. Since these things did not happen is seems like they had to renounce Damodred inheritance. What follows is that when Taringail married Morgase Galad may have been reverted to Damodred so that a Trakand Queen didn't control a Mantear High Seat. And since Laman wasn't even in consideration for the Sun Throne after Laman's death it sounds like there must have been some provision in place to exclude him.
Do the math. Galad is born of the Royal Houses of Andor and Cairhein, yet inherits from neither side upon the death of either parent and doesn't even have the name of his matrilineal House which in Andor would carry more weight for him since he did not inherit anything from Damodred. That would make some sense if he had inherited the Sun Throne or at the very least High Seat of Damodred, the mystery is why Galad is marginalized in both Andor and Cairhien. He has birth right to both a Throne and a powerful High Seat, yet got neither and is essentially left to the mercy of his adoptive mother. To your earlier pnt Elayne may be able to hand him the Sun Throne, but his legal right seems limited for an unknown reason.
Also, Elayne tells Gawyn his duty as FP includes being Captain General, but it's clear that there are other duties since she published that he was free of them at her will.
The point I am making is that Taringail should have succeeded Laman and Galad after him once Tigraine vanished. Since these things did not happen is seems like they had to renounce Damodred inheritance. What follows is that when Taringail married Morgase Galad may have been reverted to Damodred so that a Trakand Queen didn't control a Mantear High Seat. And since Laman wasn't even in consideration for the Sun Throne after Laman's death it sounds like there must have been some provision in place to exclude him.
Do the math. Galad is born of the Royal Houses of Andor and Cairhein, yet inherits from neither side upon the death of either parent and doesn't even have the name of his matrilineal House which in Andor would carry more weight for him since he did not inherit anything from Damodred. That would make some sense if he had inherited the Sun Throne or at the very least High Seat of Damodred, the mystery is why Galad is marginalized in both Andor and Cairhien. He has birth right to both a Throne and a powerful High Seat, yet got neither and is essentially left to the mercy of his adoptive mother. To your earlier pnt Elayne may be able to hand him the Sun Throne, but his legal right seems limited for an unknown reason.
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This message last edited by darius_sedai on 30/05/2012 at 06:10:03 AM
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Re: Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon.
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I think you're both wrong...
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I'm sure that is part of it, but I very much doubt he is thinking in terms of succession
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I can't believe Galad will be accepted as a ruler since he is the Lord Captain Commander
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Re: I can't believe Galad will be accepted as a ruler since he is the Lord Captain Commander
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That makes no sense
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Taringail was Laman's heir...
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You are answering the wrong question
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No. I've answered the exact question. You seem to have missed it.
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Yet not one of these things actually happened
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Explain why Taringail didn't become King after Laman's death then
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Why then would Taringail, an ambitious man, renounce a Throne?
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We don't fully know...
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You just flipped your last statement
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Not confused, simply not satisfied with the information we have
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Re: Not confused, simply not satisfied with the information we have
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I am not contesting the information we have
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You're impossible...
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Re: Explain why Taringail didn't become King after Laman's death then
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See this maps back to my original stance ... Thanks for pointing out that Fionwe invented that
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Re: That makes no sense
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Only one other thing...
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No. If that was the case Taringail would have been King of Cairhien and not have married Morgase *NM*
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Bryne was Captain General not First Prince and Taringail was Prince Consort not FP
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Bryne was First Prince Regent.
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I'd have to re-read to be 100% certain, but the way I read the passage
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I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one *NM*
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He might not literally kneel before the ter'angreal, but almost certainly must meet with Tuon soon.
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