Re: Why would RJ bother to specify that if it were minutiae?
DomA Send a noteboard - 23/05/2012 07:58:50 PM
If the rock came from Shayol Ghul but it did not matter, it seems kind of odd Jordan would spend any of his precious and fleeting last moments jotting that down for Sanderson to somehow include (or not.)
I don't understand what convinces you so much it's a detail Jordan left in the AMOL outline, drafts and attached notes
Brandon does research the background notes and character files (actually, Maria who knows these notes much better as she indexed them for RJ all those years more likely gathered summarized files of what she found relevant to the finale, for Brandon's sake. For a lot of the notes, Brandon needs to go to Charleston to consult).
You are aware that Jordan's own notes for the series, aside from that bundle TJ have assembled for AMOL, have a larger word count than the novels themselves?
The provenance of the rocks is no doubt mentionned in RJ's basic notes about the BT and its layout/physical description (and yes, he had those for every visited location).
The theory that those black rocks the Asha'man have fetched somewhere to build the BT walls, and that big one Taim used for his little speeches have come from SG is about as old as the Taimandred theory, comparing their description to those of SG and the valley.
Those mysterious black rocks which provenance RJ unusually kept for the readers have long been considered by many to be one of the early clues RJ put of a connection between the BT and the Shadow. And it appears to have been confirmed it was meant as a clue.
The secret is out since KOD that Taim serves the Shadow, so Brandon saw no need to RAFO the question (but he hesitated, possibly trying to guess if it related to a big theory t he wasn't aware of but which he may not want to kill. Or perhaps just guessing in his mind at the implications of giving that answer).
Brandon candidly admitted a few times he's neither as secretive as RJ was, nor does he enjoy nearly as much having the fans squirm or to mislead them. The theories that make sense to him, or that he considers based on purposeful deceptions by RJ he usually refuse to squash or confirm, but what he considers too much in the left field or crazy, he prefers to put an end to when he can... unless it's a pet theory on a MB and squashing it would kill discussions. Minutia he considers no longer relevant to the finale he also hesitates far less than RJ to give answers about (when he knows the details).
The fact he answered the question at this point is very much a sign it's not of any great relevance in AMOL. It doesn't mean the rocks may not have some properties that will be revealed, but it's very unlikely they'll turn into this big plot point (in the vein of Rand shedding his blood on those rocks...) or Brandon would have RAFOed the question (he's not as secretive as RJ, but he still dislikes spoilers and Harriet plain hates them).
This message last edited by DomA on 23/05/2012 at 08:54:21 PM
So apparently the palace at the Black Tower is made of Shayol Ghul stone...
23/05/2012 12:57:37 AM
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Maybe Shaidar Haran's physical limitation to SG can be bypassed by moving tainted rocks elsewhere? *NM*
23/05/2012 03:10:59 AM
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Not the palace...
23/05/2012 03:32:59 AM
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That is good logic, but the flip side is: Why would RJ bother to specify that if it were minutiae?
23/05/2012 11:22:24 AM
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Wouldn't have taken any time away from creating the ending.
23/05/2012 02:58:32 PM
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It just seems an odd thing to mention purely as background color.
23/05/2012 08:17:45 PM
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Re: It just seems an odd thing to mention purely as background color.
23/05/2012 08:42:09 PM
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Yeah, my bet is it is something more like that.
23/05/2012 09:14:24 PM
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Re: Yeah, my bet is it is something more like that.
24/05/2012 02:23:54 AM
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His response certainly seem to raise more questions than it answers, perhaps deliberately.
25/05/2012 01:38:30 AM
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Re: His response certainly seem to raise more questions than it answers, perhaps deliberately.
27/05/2012 04:32:24 PM
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Re: His response certainly seem to raise more questions than it answers, perhaps deliberately.
03/06/2012 08:44:57 AM
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Forgive me if I missed it, but I think the most obvious points haven't been discussed:
22/06/2012 10:59:02 PM
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Be'laim FTW, but technically half the Andoran nobility is Rands blood.
22/06/2012 11:15:12 PM
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Re: Why would RJ bother to specify that if it were minutiae?
23/05/2012 07:58:50 PM
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The way RJ played up everything in the Blight (especially Shayol Ghul) being subsumed in the DO...
23/05/2012 09:07:31 PM
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Re: So apparently the palace at the Black Tower is made of Shayol Ghul stone...
23/05/2012 05:52:12 PM
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Re: So apparently the palace at the Black Tower is made of Shayol Ghul stone...
23/05/2012 08:51:36 PM
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If SG rocks have special properties...
28/05/2012 01:28:28 AM
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Blightfortress, Towers of Midnight, etc.
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Re: Blightfortress, Towers of Midnight, etc.
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Re: Blightfortress, Towers of Midnight, etc.
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