You could be right about Mat going to Ebou Dar after Merrilor, of course, but the wording of the blurb seems to indicate otherwise. I know blurbs can be wrong, though.
As for the attack on Caemlyn by the Seanchan... certainly a possibility. Tuon by now knows that Morghase (a marath'damane) was queen and "released" by Suroth. She may even know Elayne is an Aes Sedai. Either way, after Tar Valon, Caemlyn is certainly on the list, but the attack on Tar Valon seems humungous, and from Selucia's wording, it seems clear they mean to throw a huge part of their forces at TV. That's the second attack on TV I referred to. The one where the Seanchan are planning to gate into the Tower basements and attack all of TV from there.
Clearly, she means to use all of the Seanchan resources against TV, and sees that as a first step towards conquering other lands. Caemlyn will have to wait for this to go down.
I'm totally not sure whether Mat will meet Tuon before this attack or not. I rather think before, since I find it hard to believe that in the undivided aMoL, Jordan planned two invasions of Tar Valon by the Seanchan to be shown on screen.
And also promptly decided he was lucid.
She's had a complete debriefing from Nynaeve, and also has the Wise One's words that he has embraced death. In that conversation she has with Siuan and Nynaeve, she shows a clear understanding that Rand has changed from before, and says that she believes he wouldn't even have to do something like Natrin's Barrow now. Nowhere does she indicate she thinks him mad. In her letter to the rulers, she just mentions Rand's "brash intentions", nothing about the madness.
And its highly unlikely Nynaeve didn't mention her Delving of Rand and finding the Light-like substance protecting him. She told Egwene everything else, why not this?
You forgot Nynaeve and the Wise Ones.
As for the attack on Caemlyn by the Seanchan... certainly a possibility. Tuon by now knows that Morghase (a marath'damane) was queen and "released" by Suroth. She may even know Elayne is an Aes Sedai. Either way, after Tar Valon, Caemlyn is certainly on the list, but the attack on Tar Valon seems humungous, and from Selucia's wording, it seems clear they mean to throw a huge part of their forces at TV. That's the second attack on TV I referred to. The one where the Seanchan are planning to gate into the Tower basements and attack all of TV from there.
"Reports say," Fortuona announced, "that there are still hundreds of marath'damane in the place called the White Tower. They are the key to recapturing Seanchan, the key to holding this land, and the key to preparing for the Last Battle. The Dragon Reborn will
serve the Crystal Throne.
"We have been provided with a way to strike. Let it be said to the Captain-General that he should gather his finest soldiers. I want each and every damane we control to be brought back to the city. We will train them in this method of Traveling. And then we will
go, in force, to the White Tower. Before, we struck them with a pinprick. Now, we will let them know the full weight of out sword. All of the marath'damane must be leashed."
serve the Crystal Throne.
"We have been provided with a way to strike. Let it be said to the Captain-General that he should gather his finest soldiers. I want each and every damane we control to be brought back to the city. We will train them in this method of Traveling. And then we will
go, in force, to the White Tower. Before, we struck them with a pinprick. Now, we will let them know the full weight of out sword. All of the marath'damane must be leashed."
Clearly, she means to use all of the Seanchan resources against TV, and sees that as a first step towards conquering other lands. Caemlyn will have to wait for this to go down.
I'm totally not sure whether Mat will meet Tuon before this attack or not. I rather think before, since I find it hard to believe that in the undivided aMoL, Jordan planned two invasions of Tar Valon by the Seanchan to be shown on screen.
She doubted his sanity during and after their meeting remember.
And also promptly decided he was lucid.
Egwene hasn't yet met anyone who could convince her Rand is (now again) quite sane. She didn't know the man she met wasn't the man she's heard all those disturbing reports about.
She's had a complete debriefing from Nynaeve, and also has the Wise One's words that he has embraced death. In that conversation she has with Siuan and Nynaeve, she shows a clear understanding that Rand has changed from before, and says that she believes he wouldn't even have to do something like Natrin's Barrow now. Nowhere does she indicate she thinks him mad. In her letter to the rulers, she just mentions Rand's "brash intentions", nothing about the madness.
Nynaeve sighed, taking her spoon to begin her soup. "I didn't mean that as a challenge, Mother. I just want to show how he thinks. Light! I didn't approve of much of what he did, particularly lately. But I can see how he got there."
"He has changed, though," Siuan said thoughtfully. "You said so yourself."
"Yes," Nynaeve said. "The Aiel say he's embraced death."
"I've heard that from them, too," Egwene said. "But I looked into his eyes, and something else has changed, something inexplicable. The man I saw . . ."
"He didn't seem like one to destroy Natrin's Barrow?" Siuan shivered as she thought of that.
"The man I saw wouldn't need to destroy such a place," Egwene said. "Those inside would just follow him. Bend to his wishes. Because he was"
The three fell silent.
"He has changed, though," Siuan said thoughtfully. "You said so yourself."
"Yes," Nynaeve said. "The Aiel say he's embraced death."
"I've heard that from them, too," Egwene said. "But I looked into his eyes, and something else has changed, something inexplicable. The man I saw . . ."
"He didn't seem like one to destroy Natrin's Barrow?" Siuan shivered as she thought of that.
"The man I saw wouldn't need to destroy such a place," Egwene said. "Those inside would just follow him. Bend to his wishes. Because he was"
The three fell silent.
And its highly unlikely Nynaeve didn't mention her Delving of Rand and finding the Light-like substance protecting him. She told Egwene everything else, why not this?
Min, Cadsuane, Tam, the Borderlands rulers are some of those people who know better. None of these people will meet Egwene before Merrilor, presumably.
You forgot Nynaeve and the Wise Ones.
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aMoL UK cover and Blurb (SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!)
21/05/2012 06:44:26 PM
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Thoughts...
21/05/2012 06:46:41 PM
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Re: Thoughts...
21/05/2012 08:45:41 PM
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Re: Thoughts...
21/05/2012 09:04:09 PM
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Re: Thoughts...
21/05/2012 09:35:29 PM
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Mat and the madness...
21/05/2012 10:30:09 PM
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Nynaeve's revelation may make the AS even more worried of Rand being mad
21/05/2012 10:58:37 PM
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Not Egwene though...
21/05/2012 11:02:41 PM
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Maybe, maybe not ... Nynaeve just gave everyone proof of the extent of his possible madness
21/05/2012 11:26:41 PM
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Re: Maybe, maybe not ... Nynaeve just gave everyone proof of the extent of his possible madness
22/05/2012 01:14:05 AM
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Re: Mat and the madness...
22/05/2012 02:29:31 AM
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Rand's dreams...
22/05/2012 02:42:36 AM
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She assumes he's mad just like most people assume a 19 year old boy is horney
22/05/2012 03:47:49 AM
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Everything Egwene's little pea-brain does not grasp has always been a sign of madness to her.
21/05/2012 11:05:44 PM
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Oh read the books will you?
21/05/2012 11:12:06 PM
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I'd rather not. For different reasons, it's kind of painful to read those by either author.
22/05/2012 04:46:20 AM
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What caught my eye there was "Trollocs seize Caemlyn."
22/05/2012 02:12:25 PM
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As much as I would love Moiraine to go with him to Ebou Dar
22/05/2012 07:20:40 PM
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At this stage, all roads lead to Rand.
22/05/2012 09:08:42 PM
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Re: At this stage, all roads lead to Rand.
23/05/2012 08:07:56 PM
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Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon.
23/05/2012 08:53:53 PM
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Re: Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon.
23/05/2012 09:01:10 PM
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It all depends on whether the actual Crystal Throne is, as many suspect, a ter'angreal.
23/05/2012 09:22:47 PM
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Re: It all depends on whether the actual Crystal Throne is, as many suspect, a ter'angreal.
24/05/2012 07:34:40 AM
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Re: It all depends on whether the actual Crystal Throne is, as many suspect, a ter'angreal.
25/05/2012 01:23:21 AM
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Re: Well, like I say, there is no reason they could not ALL meet up with Tuon.
24/05/2012 02:41:55 PM
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Aviendha's visions from Rhuidean indicate he will kneel...
24/05/2012 07:04:02 PM
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Re: Aviendha's visions from Rhuidean indicate he will kneel...
26/05/2012 09:42:20 PM
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Agreed...
26/05/2012 09:57:06 PM
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I think you are extrapolating some of his actions into more than he intends
26/05/2012 10:37:44 PM
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Re: Agreed...
27/05/2012 04:26:15 AM
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I think you're both wrong...
27/05/2012 08:41:50 AM
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I'm sure that is part of it, but I very much doubt he is thinking in terms of succession
27/05/2012 01:41:37 PM
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I can't believe Galad will be accepted as a ruler since he is the Lord Captain Commander
28/05/2012 02:48:26 AM
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Re: I can't believe Galad will be accepted as a ruler since he is the Lord Captain Commander
28/05/2012 04:54:46 PM
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That makes no sense
28/05/2012 05:50:16 PM
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Taringail was Laman's heir...
28/05/2012 07:20:07 PM
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You are answering the wrong question
29/05/2012 02:19:48 PM
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No. I've answered the exact question. You seem to have missed it.
29/05/2012 04:40:17 PM
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Yet not one of these things actually happened
29/05/2012 10:13:35 PM
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You're being absurd...
30/05/2012 01:04:36 AM
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Explain why Taringail didn't become King after Laman's death then
30/05/2012 05:48:48 AM
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30/05/2012 06:11:02 AM
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Why then would Taringail, an ambitious man, renounce a Throne?
30/05/2012 06:22:08 AM
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We don't fully know...
30/05/2012 06:43:30 AM
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You just flipped your last statement
30/05/2012 06:55:36 AM
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You seem extremely confused...
30/05/2012 09:56:30 AM
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Not confused, simply not satisfied with the information we have
30/05/2012 12:15:59 PM
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Re: Not confused, simply not satisfied with the information we have
30/05/2012 03:34:06 PM
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I am not contesting the information we have
30/05/2012 04:48:08 PM
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You're impossible...
30/05/2012 10:02:59 PM
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Re: Explain why Taringail didn't become King after Laman's death then
30/05/2012 02:22:21 PM
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See this maps back to my original stance ... Thanks for pointing out that Fionwe invented that
30/05/2012 05:09:14 PM
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Good, now you have one last thing (a few inches long) to remember so everything becomes clear....
30/05/2012 10:50:33 PM
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Re: That makes no sense
29/05/2012 04:39:45 PM
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Only one other thing...
29/05/2012 04:53:29 PM
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No. If that was the case Taringail would have been King of Cairhien and not have married Morgase *NM*
30/05/2012 05:52:18 AM
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Bryne was Captain General not First Prince and Taringail was Prince Consort not FP
30/05/2012 06:07:48 AM
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Bryne was First Prince Regent.
30/05/2012 06:19:33 AM
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No Forsaken will go near that Ter'angreal
26/05/2012 10:33:20 PM
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Re: No Forsaken will go near that Ter'angreal
27/05/2012 03:23:12 AM
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Aviendha reprogrammed the ter'angreal
27/05/2012 01:50:19 PM
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Re: Aviendha reprogrammed the ter'angreal
27/05/2012 06:44:41 PM
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I'd have to re-read to be 100% certain, but the way I read the passage
28/05/2012 02:10:14 AM
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Re: I'd have to re-read to be 100% certain, but the way I read the passage
28/05/2012 03:33:18 PM
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I think we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one *NM*
28/05/2012 05:18:40 PM
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He might not literally kneel before the ter'angreal, but almost certainly must meet with Tuon soon.
25/05/2012 03:40:54 AM
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