Furthermore, Brandon is on the record saying that in TGS, Egwene is mostly Jordan's work, and Rand is mostly him. Jordan has sketched, drafted or outlined in details a great deal of Egwene's scenes. In TOM, it was Perrin mostly by Brandon and Mat mostly by Jordan.
I don't know if it was you or someone else in wotmania, but I remember an old discussion where some of us basically had some doubts that Egwene would be some kind of "wildcard", someone critical for the final showdown, but not Prophesied so she is basically under the Shadow's radar for a long time. That RJ spent so long sketching out Egwene when he knew time was short is, perhaps, a sign that this is indeed true.
I think you reach the wrong conclusion.
IMO, Jordan started with Mat and Egwene for pratical reason. Egwene's storyline was by a long shot the most complex and had the most sub-storylines involved. RJ needed to establish fairly precisely the timeline of all events that needed to happen at the WT before he knew how much story-time Rand needed to spend in AD before his meeting with Tuon. Once Jordan had outlined the WT events far enough, he'd knew exactly when the Seanchan attack happened, which determined when Tuon returned to ED, which determined when she met Rand. That provided the timeframe RJ would need to use to organize the events in AD, from Rand's arrival to the Falme meeting.
It's the same for Mat and the Caemlyn events. Some of those were determined by when Egwene reunited the Tower. Then, it's Mat's story and Elayne that were determined the timeline of events between the Seanchan attack and the Fields of Merrilor.
Once Jordan had Mat/Elayne and Egwene figured out (and for Egwene in particular, that required some serious outlining to make sure everything would work and how many story-days that needed to work), he would know when Perrin must deal with the dreamspike and when he must arrive in Caemlyn. Like Rand, that provided RJ with a timeframe on which to organize the rest of the events in Perrin's storyline. It was fairly easy to create gaps or speed a development in those storylines. It wasn't so with Egwene. If RJ needed to stretch or condense there, it affected tons of small developments in sub-storylines.
Brandon didn't say RJ worked a lot on Egwene all the way to the end, by the way. He really gave the impression he mapped out in more details than the others her story up to the Seanchan attack/reunification.
It may well be that from that point it's not at all Egwene's story that would be useful to map out TG. Nearly all the subplots have been resolved, her storyline is fairly streamlined again.
This message last edited by DomA on 14/05/2012 at 04:42:07 PM
The cover for A Memory of Light is revealed.
03/05/2012 03:52:14 PM
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Re: The cover for A Memory of Light is revealed.
03/05/2012 04:08:09 PM
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I think I like Callandor from TDR better..
03/05/2012 04:26:42 PM
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I really like it
03/05/2012 05:54:51 PM
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The sword grip is not akward or wrong
03/05/2012 06:20:54 PM
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well, for one, I didn't say it was "wrong" so don't jump down my throat.
04/05/2012 10:03:06 PM
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If you think that was jumping down your throat... seriously... *NM*
07/05/2012 01:51:45 PM
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when I initially read it, it came off that way. I apologize if I misinterpreted you. *NM*
09/05/2012 04:58:13 PM
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Its the sword thats not a sword (its a night light!)
04/05/2012 04:47:27 PM
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oh no fair enough! like i said, I just think it looks a little awkward.
04/05/2012 10:04:21 PM
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Well...
03/05/2012 06:09:51 PM
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I think it is EG and Nyn
03/05/2012 06:24:13 PM
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Pretty sure it's Mo and Nyn
03/05/2012 06:40:49 PM
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Yeah...
03/05/2012 07:55:32 PM
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Egwene is a distinct possibility...
03/05/2012 11:37:48 PM
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She is
04/05/2012 12:15:21 AM
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I don't know...
04/05/2012 12:25:53 AM
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Re: I don't know...
04/05/2012 02:47:02 AM
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"You expect me to wise up?" "No, Egwene, I expect you to DIE!"
11/05/2012 01:36:09 AM
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What books have you been reading?
11/05/2012 01:57:31 AM
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Egwene made many things "clear;" I dug up all the ToM quotes for a post near this time last year
11/05/2012 01:12:05 PM
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The other quotes you requested, as promised.
13/05/2012 03:29:41 AM
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You misinterpreting quotes is hardly worth requoting...
13/05/2012 11:36:21 AM
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Agreed
13/05/2012 03:39:12 PM
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Exactly...
13/05/2012 05:53:17 PM
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Never said she was evil, just wrong. Horribly and tragically wrong.
14/05/2012 02:34:27 AM
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Principle protagonists can still experience epic falls.
14/05/2012 02:21:42 AM
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For the most part, very little interpretation was required.
14/05/2012 01:58:26 AM
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Re: For the most part, very little interpretation was required.
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Re: I think it is EG and Nyn
03/05/2012 07:38:36 PM
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I could be wrong, but I believe Rand used Calandor as a sword in the Stone.
03/05/2012 08:06:45 PM
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I vote for Nynaeve and Moiraine too
03/05/2012 09:05:58 PM
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Re: I vote for Nynaeve and Moiraine too
03/05/2012 11:28:42 PM
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Idea
04/05/2012 10:11:05 AM
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Re: Idea
04/05/2012 12:09:17 PM
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This would explain the hidden hand
04/05/2012 08:54:00 PM
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Re: I vote for Nynaeve and Moiraine too
04/05/2012 02:49:51 PM
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Re: I vote for Nynaeve and Moiraine too
04/05/2012 07:42:12 PM
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Re: I vote for Nynaeve and Moiraine too
07/05/2012 08:02:26 PM
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I actually found the champion/politician split between parallels very convincing.
11/05/2012 01:35:34 PM
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Re: I actually found the champion/politician split between parallels very convincing.
11/05/2012 04:06:50 PM
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Egwenes problem is her knack for seeing the error of her ways without ever LEARNING it.
13/05/2012 04:57:27 AM
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The Seanchan assassin...
13/05/2012 11:47:53 AM
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You do realize she drew her own (false but firm) conclusions based on a dearth of data. Again.
14/05/2012 02:08:26 AM
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Re: You do realize she drew her own (false but firm) conclusions based on a dearth of data. Again.
14/05/2012 04:08:11 AM
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Re: You do realize she drew her own (false but firm) conclusions based on a dearth of data. Again.
21/05/2012 01:59:15 AM
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looks a little 'naughty pirate novel' but is pretty fricken awesome! *NM*
03/05/2012 06:50:42 PM
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Re: The cover for A Memory of Light is revealed.
03/05/2012 07:25:37 PM
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I does not look like Nynaeve and Moiraine
03/05/2012 11:39:01 PM
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Nynaeve has cut her braid and has her hair shoulder length in TOM....
03/05/2012 11:44:50 PM
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Re: Nynaeve has cut her braid and has her hair shoulder length in TOM....
03/05/2012 11:51:02 PM
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nynaeve with no braid?.... are we sure its not egwene? or did no one tell him the hairstyles? *NM*
08/05/2012 06:48:49 PM
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Nyn cut her braid off. *NM*
08/05/2012 06:55:02 PM
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I thought it was burned off during her test for Aes Sedaihood. *NM*
08/05/2012 07:25:51 PM
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Right, my mistake. Then she cut her hair to make it straight again. *NM*
08/05/2012 08:54:33 PM
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Regarding the identities of the women on the back:
09/05/2012 08:52:47 PM
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What the hell is on the ground close to the bottom edge of the picture? *NM*
10/05/2012 05:55:07 AM
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It's Michael Whelan's signature. I looked it up and found it in a different book cover *NM*
11/05/2012 07:05:22 AM
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That looks pretty cool, better than most of the other WoT covers
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