Active Users:1964 Time:19/01/2025 10:43:59 PM
MORDENKAINEN IS AN UNSTOPPABLE JUGGERNAUT!!! Joel Send a noteboard - 04/05/2012 05:40:33 PM
I share Sidous's unease with the casual disregard he displays to something like channeler strength, the identificaiton of individual angreal etc.


I'm curious about why people find relative strengths in the One Power to be so interesting. Being a physicist of the theoretical orientation, I absolutely agree that it can be interesting to study something with little or no practical application, but I've never had that much interest in strength. I'll happily discuss other aspects of the One Power, though, such as <a href="http://www.readandfindout.com/wheeloftime/messageboard/243534/">how Traveling became a lost Talent</a>. If anyone can shed some light on why they are interested in One Power strength, I'd be happy to read it.


That's the kind of the stuff I find absolutely facinating.

Was Darth Revan more powerful than Darth Sidious? How does Darth Bane compare to Darth Vader?

Who is the most powerful mage in the Forgotten Realms? Is it Elminster, Karsus of Netheril, Khelben Blackstaff?

How does Demandred compare to Sammael?

What is the total potential size of the North's armies vs that of the Lannisters or Dorne?

How many ships can the Manderly's support vs the city of Braavos?

How much more gold does Tywin Lannister have than House Stark?

I just find the ability to rank competitors in a hierarchical and proportionate order incredibly interesting.

Seems like most Greyhawk wizards could mop the floor with Frealms denizens, but he would be particularly hard to beat since his player literally wrote 90% of the grimoire (along with all the other rules.) If nothing else, he could chunk Mordys Dis around until Elminster were no more than an anemic fighter with an AC that looked like first level THAC0 (and vice versa.)

Of course, since Greyhawk and Faerun are separate worlds, Mordenkainen can never confront Elminster, which is the biggest problem with "who would win a fight between..." debates: The very premise is usually so implausible, if not impossible, as to moot the discussion; it does not matter who would win a fight that can never be. Worse, the nature of the hypothetical battle between fictional foes precludes resolution of both battle and debate. Elminster throwing down with Khelben is even less likely than Egwene and Elayne flinging balefire at each other, or Mat and Rand dueling to the death. Rand COULD conceivably end up in mortal combat with Gawyn, and if Egwene (or Elayne, for that matter) is turned by a circle via Myrddraal, that could also happen, but even those are of dubious likelihood because of how they would impact the narrative. Any competition divorced from the narrative is divorced from relevance, making the whole thought-experiment diverting (or diversion,) but pointless.
Honorbound and honored to be Bonded to Mahtaliel Sedai
Last First in wotmania Chat
Slightly better than chocolate.

Love still can't be coerced.
Please Don't Eat the Newbies!

LoL. Be well, RAFOlk.
Reply to message
Very interesting QA with Brandon - 20/04/2012 11:19:02 PM 2919 Views
I'm sad - 21/04/2012 12:00:33 AM 1275 Views
Ha! Not even RJ could keep up with the world he created! *NM* - 21/04/2012 01:01:29 AM 504 Views
I found it painful to read - 21/04/2012 09:53:31 AM 1134 Views
Do you find that surprising? - 21/04/2012 02:52:47 PM 991 Views
I find it disappointing - 22/04/2012 08:09:10 AM 910 Views
How would obscure crap screw up the story? - 21/04/2012 06:51:27 PM 1055 Views
He apparently amended himself the next day... - 21/04/2012 08:00:01 PM 1417 Views
"Brandon: Umm, when did Perrin meet Masema?" ughhh facepalm *NM* - 22/04/2012 02:45:45 AM 574 Views
Re: He apparently amended himself the next day... - 22/04/2012 08:34:39 AM 1097 Views
I find your pain highly amusing. *NM* - 23/04/2012 04:50:09 AM 615 Views
I'll make my pain yours *NM* - 23/04/2012 02:34:31 PM 521 Views
Sid.. Sid... Sid... *sigh*... *facepalm* *NM* - 24/04/2012 11:09:22 PM 593 Views
Re: Very interesting QA with Brandon - 22/04/2012 02:53:38 AM 1061 Views
Re: Very interesting QA with Brandon - 22/04/2012 03:10:21 PM 1122 Views
Re: Very interesting QA with Brandon - 23/04/2012 05:48:18 AM 957 Views
This certainly makes a mockery of a lot that us 20-year long readers of Wot used to hold dear... - 23/04/2012 09:50:51 AM 1306 Views
Re: This certainly makes a mockery of a lot that us 20-year long readers of Wot used to hold dear... - 23/04/2012 02:39:30 PM 1073 Views
Agreed.. - 23/04/2012 03:22:05 PM 1031 Views
Re: Agreed.. - 24/04/2012 05:47:22 AM 981 Views
It's just their pet subject. - 24/04/2012 06:01:24 PM 1051 Views
I think you may be giving RJ more credit than his due here - 24/04/2012 10:35:28 PM 1072 Views
Re: I think you may be giving RJ more credit than his due here - 25/04/2012 05:02:04 AM 941 Views
We are in very close alignment - 25/04/2012 01:27:37 PM 888 Views
Re: This certainly makes a mockery of a lot that us 20-year long readers of Wot used to hold dear... - 24/04/2012 05:46:03 AM 1001 Views
Re: This certainly makes a mockery of a lot that us 20-year long readers of Wot used to hold dear... - 24/04/2012 08:10:15 AM 1068 Views
You replied far more diplomatically than I would have... - 24/04/2012 10:10:57 AM 972 Views
It's got little to do with obsession... - 25/04/2012 01:20:48 AM 988 Views
Re: It's got little to do with obsession... - 25/04/2012 05:05:40 PM 1008 Views
Re: It's got little to do with obsession... - 27/04/2012 12:58:36 AM 927 Views
Question about TGS and ToM: - 27/04/2012 02:20:34 AM 910 Views
Very similar to you - 27/04/2012 09:50:52 PM 1008 Views
Are there plans for rewrites / reordering of the books? - 29/04/2012 01:17:48 PM 961 Views
of course there's no plan - 30/04/2012 06:15:49 AM 1334 Views
I didn't know Harriet had such a big role in this - 30/04/2012 10:57:14 PM 866 Views
She does - 01/05/2012 03:52:40 PM 978 Views
Egwene... - 27/04/2012 05:41:13 AM 942 Views
Re: Egwene... - 27/04/2012 09:30:32 PM 927 Views
Re: Egwene... - 28/04/2012 09:44:43 AM 909 Views
I don't find it all that surprising - 28/04/2012 03:56:41 PM 852 Views
Re: I don't find it all that surprising - 29/04/2012 08:07:55 AM 866 Views
Agreed - 29/04/2012 01:52:06 PM 863 Views
Re: I don't find it all that surprising - 30/04/2012 07:54:14 AM 777 Views
I suspect Cadsuane will die before that happens - 30/04/2012 07:06:04 PM 935 Views
Re: I suspect Cadsuane will die before that happens - 30/04/2012 08:36:44 PM 834 Views
Cadsuane shouldn't reswear the oaths - 30/04/2012 10:43:32 PM 951 Views
Apparenly not - 01/05/2012 04:26:08 PM 780 Views
Not sure Cadsuane will ever be reigned in by anyone - 01/05/2012 01:18:44 AM 818 Views
Re: Not sure Cadsuane will ever be reigned in by anyone - 01/05/2012 08:17:49 PM 1155 Views
As usual we are in pretty close alignment - 02/05/2012 04:29:20 AM 1007 Views
Re: Egwene... - 30/04/2012 07:41:11 AM 781 Views
Re: Egwene... - 01/05/2012 07:10:35 PM 898 Views
Re: Egwene... - 01/05/2012 10:51:09 PM 1107 Views
I think there is a lot of TAR coming up - 05/05/2012 05:13:18 AM 777 Views
Probably - 05/05/2012 06:52:57 PM 899 Views
Thanks! This fits nicely with my thoughts... - 28/04/2012 10:05:27 PM 970 Views
Re: Thanks! This fits nicely with my thoughts... - 30/04/2012 03:08:57 PM 915 Views
Re: This certainly makes a mockery of a lot that us 20-year long readers of Wot used to hold dear... - 24/04/2012 10:49:54 PM 986 Views
For me it's interesting simply because it is not all that well defined - 24/04/2012 11:16:14 PM 1004 Views
Elminster vs Karsus, Darth Vader vs Darth Revan, Demandred vs Sammael - who has more midichloriants. - 25/04/2012 03:13:17 PM 1283 Views
MORDENKAINEN IS AN UNSTOPPABLE JUGGERNAUT!!! - 04/05/2012 05:40:33 PM 1228 Views
Quantifiable magic - 25/04/2012 04:41:43 PM 872 Views
the angreal part bothered me way more - 28/04/2012 10:51:46 AM 888 Views
what's MAFO? *NM* - 28/04/2012 07:01:52 PM 533 Views
Maria (Simmons) And Find Out - 29/04/2012 02:07:19 AM 825 Views

Reply to Message