Red hair is double recessive ... Doesn't take much to eliminate it from the gene pool. There could
darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 08/04/2012 11:22:36 PM
be black Aiel form the AOL for all we know. The rest is up to interpretation. Define as you will, but as has been state a million times in the series Prophesy is a tricky thing. I openly admit I could wrong. But defining the Aiel as only those who dwell in the Waste is purely a racial definition and even that is questionable since we have no idea how much of the AOL population of Aiel was addressed in the group who ended up in the Waste and seemingly they all came from a common AOL geography. What evidence do you have that all Aiel in the AOL looked like those we see now ... What about the Amayar?
I'm not trying to prove that the Tuatha'an are the "true Aiel" ... I'm staying that they embody a portion of the community. Just as the Aiel of the Waste embody other parts. Neither group would be considered true Aiel by their common ancestry and we don't have much beyond The Way and a handful of potentially genetic gifts to understand what a true Aiel was in the AOL.
I don't think Rand will destroy those who follow the Way, i think the Aiel who will survive as the remnant will be those that accept the true heritage of the Aiel. That is not by definition a genetic trait or a philosophy.
I'm not trying to prove that the Tuatha'an are the "true Aiel" ... I'm staying that they embody a portion of the community. Just as the Aiel of the Waste embody other parts. Neither group would be considered true Aiel by their common ancestry and we don't have much beyond The Way and a handful of potentially genetic gifts to understand what a true Aiel was in the AOL.
I don't think Rand will destroy those who follow the Way, i think the Aiel who will survive as the remnant will be those that accept the true heritage of the Aiel. That is not by definition a genetic trait or a philosophy.
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Aviendha, the columns, and the Seanchan
- 03/04/2012 04:29:31 PM
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The entire point, I believe, is to give Avienda the opportunity to change that future
- 03/04/2012 05:13:48 PM
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As far as I understand it, that future is impossible anyway.
- 03/04/2012 07:30:52 PM
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Depends on how one defines Aiel
- 04/04/2012 04:11:11 AM
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There are more than there were before.
- 04/04/2012 07:03:27 AM
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But when the prophesy was made there many followers
- 04/04/2012 10:10:54 AM
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The Tuatha'an are not Aiel.
- 04/04/2012 06:28:47 PM
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Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel.
- 05/04/2012 01:41:23 AM
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Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel.
- 05/04/2012 07:39:04 AM
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Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel.
- 05/04/2012 02:14:37 PM
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Yes, I was thinking of the Aiel's suicidal traditions as well.
- 05/04/2012 06:24:56 PM
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Re: Yes, I was thinking of the Aiel's suicidal traditions as well.
- 06/04/2012 12:20:31 AM
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Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel.
- 06/04/2012 10:38:24 PM
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Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel.
- 07/04/2012 06:27:27 AM
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Re: The Tuatha'an are not Aiel.
- 07/04/2012 07:23:03 PM
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So what you're saying...
- 07/04/2012 10:07:59 PM
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What I am saying is that it's not a "pure bloodline" that makes one an Aiel
- 08/04/2012 12:16:10 AM
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I never said it was.
- 08/04/2012 12:43:26 AM
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Actually you did In your above post you speak of the Tinkers as not Aiel because they have been
- 08/04/2012 06:09:01 AM
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No...
- 08/04/2012 07:12:22 AM
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You have no evidence that the Tuath'an are mostly comprised of runaways etc
- 08/04/2012 05:16:54 PM
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Re: You have no evidence that the Tuath'an are mostly comprised of runaways etc
- 08/04/2012 06:43:27 PM
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Re: You have no evidence that the Tuath'an are mostly comprised of runaways etc
- 08/04/2012 07:52:10 PM
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Red hair is double recessive ... Doesn't take much to eliminate it from the gene pool. There could
- 08/04/2012 11:22:36 PM
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You are consistently making the same mistake.
- 09/04/2012 02:45:46 AM
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They are the same thing. The remnant of a remnant are Aiel
- 10/04/2012 05:04:55 AM
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No. They are not.
- 10/04/2012 05:42:29 AM
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Never said the remnant of the remnant was the whole of the Aiel
- 10/04/2012 05:45:47 PM
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You said that redefining the Aiel would allow Aviendha's vision to be possible.
- 10/04/2012 06:53:51 PM
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No , I said there were many ways to interpret the statement based on how one defines Aiel
- 10/04/2012 07:36:11 PM
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All of which is entirely irrelevant.
- 10/04/2012 07:38:29 PM
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Actually it states he will save a remnant of a remnant
- 10/04/2012 07:47:04 PM
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Re: Actually it states he will save a remnant of a remnant
- 11/04/2012 01:40:36 AM
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That is what I just said
- 14/04/2012 01:41:56 AM
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What is important about that?
- 14/04/2012 04:35:55 AM
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The importance is that the prophesy says that Rand
- 14/04/2012 06:06:31 PM
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So what you're saying is...
- 14/04/2012 09:45:36 PM
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That's exactly it 
- 14/04/2012 11:21:25 PM
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- 14/04/2012 11:21:25 PM
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Good.
- 15/04/2012 02:01:14 AM
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He sets it in motion, thus his actions lead to it
- 15/04/2012 02:55:13 PM
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Yes, but in that case, he is responsible for everything, ever.
- 15/04/2012 05:29:31 PM
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We are interpreting Prophesy here ... Direct v. Indirect actions are what we are discussing
- 15/04/2012 07:21:29 PM
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Re: We are interpreting Prophesy here ... Direct v. Indirect actions are what we are discussing
- 17/04/2012 04:18:32 AM
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Of course, but the point of my example was...
- 17/04/2012 06:08:09 PM
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Where are you getting this happens over thousands of years?
- 18/04/2012 01:47:42 PM
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