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Re: That makes no sense... Sidious Send a noteboard - 11/03/2012 08:54:11 AM
Your theory hinges upon Rand drawing on Saidin and the TP together, or being in a circle where the TP and Saidar are used together. But RJ has said that the TP and the OP have unpredictable reactions together. We also have the crossing balefire streams as evidence for this. Which makes it highly unlikely someone can channel both and survive. That is, if one person can access two sourcesb of power at the same time in the first place!

Yes I agree that this would be a serious risk. I don't think they will attempt to meld the flows. Its entirely possible that Rand will create a barrier with the TP and after that initiate the actual sealing.

So quite apart from the thematic issues others pointed to, there are practical issues with your idea too.

Anyway, you're taking the wrong message from Rand's statement about having to touch the DO last time. The solution is not: touch him with something else. The solution is to not touch him at all.

Well that's your opinion, which I don't agree with. I think it implies that something must touch the DO... Lews Therin said as much.

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What's so special about Callandor? Sidious - 06/03/2012 07:31:40 PM 2134 Views
Honestly, I'm more curious about the "Dragon-only" barrier that surrounded it beetnemesis - 06/03/2012 09:16:15 PM 1072 Views
I also think the flaw might be deliberate Sidious - 06/03/2012 09:56:02 PM 1139 Views
Re: I also think the flaw might be deliberate DomA - 07/03/2012 04:11:21 AM 1205 Views
Re: I also think the flaw might be deliberate Sidious - 07/03/2012 10:31:39 AM 1042 Views
Re: I also think the flaw might be deliberate DomA - 07/03/2012 10:55:56 PM 1072 Views
RJ addressed this ... I had a similar thought several years back and this quote was floated my way darius_sedai - 07/03/2012 04:18:01 AM 1095 Views
Hmm.... Sidious - 07/03/2012 01:50:07 PM 1018 Views
Very similar to what you are getting at as I recall darius_sedai - 07/03/2012 02:00:56 PM 901 Views
Using the True Power to win Tarmon Gai'don goes against every moral in the series. Fanatic-Templar - 07/03/2012 07:00:02 AM 952 Views
actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues Sidious - 07/03/2012 10:36:03 AM 853 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues Fanatic-Templar - 07/03/2012 06:02:48 PM 935 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues Sidious - 07/03/2012 06:18:16 PM 870 Views
If anything the Dark One WANTS Lews Therin to use the TP *NM* mogi67 - 07/03/2012 09:43:20 PM 565 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues Fanatic-Templar - 07/03/2012 11:38:56 PM 1053 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues Sidious - 10/03/2012 11:52:23 AM 1057 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues Fanatic-Templar - 10/03/2012 06:40:00 PM 926 Views
Have to agree with you on this darius_sedai - 12/03/2012 01:17:06 AM 912 Views
Re: Have to agree with you on this DomA - 12/03/2012 02:36:13 PM 882 Views
Fain has become so much more than human. We have no real sense of the limits of his power darius_sedai - 18/03/2012 11:21:54 PM 789 Views
Shai'tan is the opposite half of the Creator. Fanatic-Templar - 19/03/2012 01:44:31 AM 770 Views
I actually don't see it that way darius_sedai - 19/03/2012 03:37:26 AM 938 Views
depends how you look at it Sidious - 19/03/2012 10:41:28 AM 986 Views
Re: depends how you look at it Gartax - 19/03/2012 01:07:21 PM 720 Views
Re: depends how you look at it DomA - 19/03/2012 08:12:17 PM 851 Views
Odds are you are correct darius_sedai - 19/03/2012 11:45:03 PM 713 Views
Re: depends how you look at it Gartax - 20/03/2012 12:51:48 PM 683 Views
The DO did not not destroy Mashadar alone darius_sedai - 19/03/2012 11:42:21 PM 745 Views
That's not correct. Fanatic-Templar - 20/03/2012 01:55:05 AM 751 Views
Saidin and the True Power both touched Mashadar darius_sedai - 20/03/2012 01:11:17 PM 1013 Views
Re: Saidin and the True Power both touched Mashadar Fanatic-Templar - 20/03/2012 04:27:33 PM 678 Views
Re: Saidin and the True Power both touched Mashadar Gartax - 20/03/2012 04:57:08 PM 1032 Views
You explantion is DomA - 20/03/2012 06:17:52 PM 782 Views
Agreed *NM* darius_sedai - 19/03/2012 11:40:40 PM 389 Views
RJ Quote: Fanatic-Templar - 19/03/2012 06:52:12 PM 738 Views
Exactly DomA - 19/03/2012 08:54:22 PM 1042 Views
Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction darius_sedai - 19/03/2012 11:48:20 PM 728 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction Gartax - 20/03/2012 01:06:20 PM 751 Views
My point with imagination is simply that destruction only does 1 thing darius_sedai - 20/03/2012 01:14:55 PM 897 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction Fanatic-Templar - 20/03/2012 04:35:17 PM 746 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction Gartax - 20/03/2012 04:59:13 PM 728 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction Fanatic-Templar - 20/03/2012 08:57:35 PM 835 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction Gartax - 21/03/2012 01:09:13 PM 774 Views
Yep . Fanatic-Templar - 21/03/2012 04:51:15 PM 753 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues Sidious - 14/03/2012 12:15:36 PM 858 Views
except the TP is not just a tool. LadyLorraine - 14/03/2012 01:41:17 PM 848 Views
No, the Choedan Kal was a tool. Fanatic-Templar - 14/03/2012 05:20:53 PM 660 Views
Sounds like the One Ring guttering flame - 04/05/2012 03:55:01 PM 859 Views
I totally agree with you on both issues Ben DomA - 07/03/2012 11:44:42 PM 1003 Views
No, I don't agree Sidious - 10/03/2012 12:11:37 PM 953 Views
That makes no sense... fionwe1987 - 10/03/2012 09:21:19 PM 789 Views
Re: That makes no sense... rosco12 - 11/03/2012 12:25:53 AM 791 Views
Name an existing well that has that much power, though. fionwe1987 - 11/03/2012 01:11:40 AM 753 Views
He makes a good point though. Fanatic-Templar - 11/03/2012 05:49:59 AM 783 Views
Yes, but... fionwe1987 - 11/03/2012 06:17:25 AM 734 Views
Re: Yes, but... Fanatic-Templar - 11/03/2012 06:47:43 PM 767 Views
I found a couple of quote rosco12 - 12/03/2012 12:00:36 AM 951 Views
Yeah, I looked through Terez' quote database. Fanatic-Templar - 12/03/2012 12:46:38 AM 775 Views
Re: That makes no sense... Sidious - 11/03/2012 08:54:11 AM 903 Views
Re: That makes no sense... DomA - 12/03/2012 02:15:19 PM 977 Views
Re: No, I don't agree DomA - 12/03/2012 01:49:10 PM 953 Views
How the Three can become One using the True Power...mindtraps of Moggy and Cyndane... Shannow - 12/03/2012 06:04:22 PM 846 Views
Whether it happens or not, it might explain the choice of mind trap victims JasonD - 13/03/2012 06:43:45 AM 953 Views
Re: Whether it happens or not, it might explain the choice of mind trap victims MikeyMikeyMikey - 13/03/2012 05:19:21 PM 770 Views
That's what I meant JasonD - 18/03/2012 11:13:19 PM 889 Views
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