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Or does it? JasonD Send a noteboard - 10/03/2012 06:21:53 PM
Remember what they did on Deep Space Nine when Nana Visitor got pregnant, but it didn't fit her character? They contrived a situation where she had to surrogate-carry a baby for Keiko O'Brien.

So:

#1 Rand knocks up Aviendha early in AMOL. This is already probable, because readers will need to have doubts about Rand's survival.
- #1a Also, there's the problem of Lanfear's superpowered lust inducement that has the potential to bring Rand down. No doubt there will be situations where Rand's proper ladies will have to be on hand to *cough* quench his fires.

#2 Elayne is mortally wounded. The babies! The babies!

#3 Nynaeve arrives on the scene and asks, quite casually, if anyone happens to have a functioning womb that's already delivering nutrients?
- #3a Reread the prologue of Winter's Heart, where Aviendha and Elayne become first-sisters. It goes beyond simple ceremony; it requires channeling, includes a weird sort of rebirth, weaves related to the Warder bond, and the conspicuous absence of Melaine owing to concern that her unborn babies might be touched by the weave. There's just tons of foreshadowing there.

#4 Viola! The babies are transplanted. Elayne dies. Aviendha carries and gives birth to four babies, and the "something odd" is the obvious fact that two of them are Elayne's.
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So who thinks Elayne will die in aMoL? - 29/02/2012 04:02:07 AM 1924 Views
Given the various Foretellings and Min Viewings the only way Elayne can die - 29/02/2012 05:48:50 AM 1026 Views
Dying in childbirth would be totally lame - 29/02/2012 09:34:47 AM 1012 Views
There is the one vision Min had of Aveinda where she was going to have 4? babies but it was odd *NM* - 29/02/2012 04:53:46 PM 483 Views
That's nothing to do with Elayne - 29/02/2012 05:19:39 PM 1010 Views
Or does it? - 10/03/2012 06:21:53 PM 815 Views
She's already gone from Caemlyn at the timeof the attack, at the meeting in Merrilor - 29/02/2012 05:29:27 PM 1184 Views
Going to have to agree 100% *NM* - 29/02/2012 06:42:15 PM 539 Views
I also get the feeling that RJ isn't going to kill off any main characters - 29/02/2012 10:44:29 PM 839 Views
Ok... - 01/03/2012 03:23:11 AM 889 Views
practically speaking you're correct. But this is a fantasy novel with a pro-protagonist tone - 01/03/2012 04:24:38 PM 847 Views
I disagree... - 01/03/2012 06:29:32 PM 1025 Views
not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives - 02/03/2012 05:51:03 AM 979 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives - 04/03/2012 06:46:12 PM 824 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives - 04/03/2012 07:32:31 PM 897 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives - 05/03/2012 01:54:49 AM 955 Views
is there any chance that the broken crown could refer to Manethrean? (sp?) - 05/03/2012 02:10:17 AM 936 Views
Perrin bringing Manthrean back seems unlikely - 05/03/2012 04:28:57 PM 929 Views
No, I realize that - 05/03/2012 09:12:56 PM 838 Views
Re: No, I realize that - 06/03/2012 02:14:14 AM 987 Views
Ahhh. I had forgotten that particular detail - 06/03/2012 02:45:28 PM 815 Views
Re: Ahhh. I had forgotten that particular detail - 07/03/2012 03:43:59 AM 840 Views
oh pllp. clearly I haven't read much lately - 07/03/2012 02:02:20 PM 975 Views
- 09/03/2012 12:43:57 PM 815 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives - 06/03/2012 01:47:08 AM 1014 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives - 05/03/2012 01:51:46 AM 1090 Views
I think Lan will live just to spite the character *NM* - 05/03/2012 02:11:59 AM 528 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives - 06/03/2012 02:35:23 AM 931 Views
RJ says otherwise - 07/03/2012 02:08:23 PM 945 Views
Re: RJ says otherwise - 08/03/2012 04:53:42 AM 1040 Views
I kind of disagree - 08/03/2012 05:21:33 AM 991 Views
Re: I kind of disagree - 08/03/2012 01:39:40 PM 943 Views
You misunderstand my point - 09/03/2012 05:31:09 AM 881 Views
Re: I also get the feeling that RJ isn't going to kill off any main characters - 01/03/2012 03:10:35 PM 1026 Views
I didn't know Naelson was a Darkfriend, or Tylin either. What about Jaim? - 02/03/2012 01:45:57 AM 1033 Views
they're not main characters either - 02/03/2012 05:58:13 AM 948 Views
I wouldn't even consider Morgase to be a MAIN character. - 02/03/2012 12:28:41 PM 968 Views
Verin is the most significant character to die that I recall - 01/03/2012 04:50:51 PM 947 Views
Hope or think? *NM* - 01/03/2012 06:30:58 PM 484 Views
Oh God I hope she does *NM* - 02/03/2012 01:48:46 AM 691 Views
i don't think she will....just hoping. *NM* - 04/03/2012 09:55:06 AM 608 Views
It's fairly doubtful - 04/03/2012 04:34:01 PM 1041 Views
Agreed. - 04/03/2012 06:37:25 PM 773 Views
Re: Agreed. - 04/03/2012 08:38:45 PM 922 Views
I expect Moiraine to be the second woman to link with Rand - 05/03/2012 02:08:44 AM 895 Views
I'm very suspicious of the whole "Callandor" theory.... - 06/03/2012 03:27:05 AM 1146 Views
I have wondered for a long time if the Ogier, Rand, Aiel and the Tinkers won't end up - 06/03/2012 04:04:13 AM 708 Views
Re: I have wondered for a long time if the Ogier, Rand, Aiel and the Tinkers won't end up - 06/03/2012 03:10:45 PM 983 Views
We have similar thought processes on this *NM* - 07/03/2012 01:47:39 PM 438 Views
I don't see Singing playing any role in TG - 08/03/2012 05:08:24 AM 791 Views
Have you read ToM? - 08/03/2012 07:52:46 AM 882 Views
Re: I don't see Singing playing any role in TG - 08/03/2012 02:07:31 PM 884 Views
I expect Rand to "die" - 05/03/2012 02:07:55 AM 791 Views

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