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Re: You misunderstand my point DomA Send a noteboard - 09/03/2012 12:40:29 PM
It is clear that Lan has a future in Mins viewings. One that to date we don't really have an answer for. Min had viewings related to Lan that thus far have not been clearly fulfilled ... I make no assessment of what the baby and towers mean, not that they are clearly things for Lan's future. I do not say that Lan will have a child or that the Towers will rise again, only that Min's viewing is symbolic of a future event involving Lan.


Or were in his future back in EOTW, but it could well be fulfilled.

IRRC, Min only had two viewings related to Lan (one of him, one of Nynaeve). There was baby with a sword in front and the ruined seven towers (which could be fulfilled or not, we'll know only after reading AMOL if it referred to something specific or to the raising of the Golden Crane in KOD), and there was Lan's ring that Min told Nynaeve was related to troubles but in the distant future. The one of Nynaeve is almost certainly fulfilled. The ring was how she got Lan an army. As for troubles, he's riding to fight TG....

A more recent viewing of Nynaeve has her kneeling in front of a corpse, in grief. Rand? Lan? Someone else? We'll see. The timing makes it just as likely that it is Rand as Lan. It could be about Rand, though there have been many already about him in a funeral bier (the first one where Nynaeve is involved, though - and we can't tell if it is contradictory (it's not Rand) or complementary (it provides the first evidence Nyaneve may be involved with the "is dead but lives" part, even though I still think this goes massively against certain themes in the series) to the all "three in a boat" variants, or Egwene's dream of a man on a narrow cot who is not dead yet and musn't die, but outside his funeral pyre is being built and some are mourning and others are cheering.). If it is about Lan, I guess it was intended that we more readily associated it with Rand's death.

After so many months near Nynaeve/Lan, and knowing Nynaeve's worries now that he's gone, Min normally would have come forward to reassure her if she saw anything hinting at happy events in their future. She must not have seen any children for the couple yet, for instance. Nynaeve's not pregnant, any such viewing would mean Lan and Nynaeve would be reunited. It doesn' sound like Min has seen anything with which she could alleviate Nynaeve's worries or give her some hope.

There are quite a few characters we know can't die, or at least very soon. Mat-Perrin-Rand-Egwene-Elayne all have a few prophecies about them still to be fulfilled. It's far less clear with Nynaeve-Lan, though it seems likely Nynaeve survives either Rand or Lan or both.

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So who thinks Elayne will die in aMoL? - 29/02/2012 04:02:07 AM 2087 Views
Given the various Foretellings and Min Viewings the only way Elayne can die - 29/02/2012 05:48:50 AM 1181 Views
Dying in childbirth would be totally lame - 29/02/2012 09:34:47 AM 1174 Views
There is the one vision Min had of Aveinda where she was going to have 4? babies but it was odd *NM* - 29/02/2012 04:53:46 PM 594 Views
That's nothing to do with Elayne - 29/02/2012 05:19:39 PM 1159 Views
Or does it? - 10/03/2012 06:21:53 PM 981 Views
She's already gone from Caemlyn at the timeof the attack, at the meeting in Merrilor - 29/02/2012 05:29:27 PM 1372 Views
Going to have to agree 100% *NM* - 29/02/2012 06:42:15 PM 650 Views
I also get the feeling that RJ isn't going to kill off any main characters - 29/02/2012 10:44:29 PM 1004 Views
Ok... - 01/03/2012 03:23:11 AM 1051 Views
practically speaking you're correct. But this is a fantasy novel with a pro-protagonist tone - 01/03/2012 04:24:38 PM 1006 Views
I disagree... - 01/03/2012 06:29:32 PM 1190 Views
not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives - 02/03/2012 05:51:03 AM 1146 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives - 04/03/2012 06:46:12 PM 986 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives - 04/03/2012 07:32:31 PM 1060 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives - 05/03/2012 01:54:49 AM 1126 Views
is there any chance that the broken crown could refer to Manethrean? (sp?) - 05/03/2012 02:10:17 AM 1135 Views
Perrin bringing Manthrean back seems unlikely - 05/03/2012 04:28:57 PM 1103 Views
No, I realize that - 05/03/2012 09:12:56 PM 1001 Views
Re: No, I realize that - 06/03/2012 02:14:14 AM 1155 Views
Ahhh. I had forgotten that particular detail - 06/03/2012 02:45:28 PM 974 Views
Re: Ahhh. I had forgotten that particular detail - 07/03/2012 03:43:59 AM 997 Views
oh pllp. clearly I haven't read much lately - 07/03/2012 02:02:20 PM 1128 Views
- 09/03/2012 12:43:57 PM 1003 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives - 06/03/2012 01:47:08 AM 1179 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives - 05/03/2012 01:51:46 AM 1254 Views
I think Lan will live just to spite the character *NM* - 05/03/2012 02:11:59 AM 640 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives - 06/03/2012 02:35:23 AM 1091 Views
RJ says otherwise - 07/03/2012 02:08:23 PM 1099 Views
Re: RJ says otherwise - 08/03/2012 04:53:42 AM 1197 Views
I kind of disagree - 08/03/2012 05:21:33 AM 1150 Views
Re: I kind of disagree - 08/03/2012 01:39:40 PM 1100 Views
You misunderstand my point - 09/03/2012 05:31:09 AM 1044 Views
Re: You misunderstand my point - 09/03/2012 12:40:29 PM 1401 Views
Re: I also get the feeling that RJ isn't going to kill off any main characters - 01/03/2012 03:10:35 PM 1190 Views
I didn't know Naelson was a Darkfriend, or Tylin either. What about Jaim? - 02/03/2012 01:45:57 AM 1306 Views
they're not main characters either - 02/03/2012 05:58:13 AM 1109 Views
I wouldn't even consider Morgase to be a MAIN character. - 02/03/2012 12:28:41 PM 1109 Views
Verin is the most significant character to die that I recall - 01/03/2012 04:50:51 PM 1101 Views
Hope or think? *NM* - 01/03/2012 06:30:58 PM 595 Views
Oh God I hope she does *NM* - 02/03/2012 01:48:46 AM 809 Views
i don't think she will....just hoping. *NM* - 04/03/2012 09:55:06 AM 725 Views
It's fairly doubtful - 04/03/2012 04:34:01 PM 1197 Views
Agreed. - 04/03/2012 06:37:25 PM 939 Views
Re: Agreed. - 04/03/2012 08:38:45 PM 1086 Views
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I'm very suspicious of the whole "Callandor" theory.... - 06/03/2012 03:27:05 AM 1319 Views
I have wondered for a long time if the Ogier, Rand, Aiel and the Tinkers won't end up - 06/03/2012 04:04:13 AM 888 Views
Re: I have wondered for a long time if the Ogier, Rand, Aiel and the Tinkers won't end up - 06/03/2012 03:10:45 PM 1250 Views
We have similar thought processes on this *NM* - 07/03/2012 01:47:39 PM 552 Views
I don't see Singing playing any role in TG - 08/03/2012 05:08:24 AM 942 Views
Have you read ToM? - 08/03/2012 07:52:46 AM 1045 Views
Re: I don't see Singing playing any role in TG - 08/03/2012 02:07:31 PM 1040 Views
I expect Rand to "die" - 05/03/2012 02:07:55 AM 985 Views

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