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Re: You misunderstand my point DomA Send a noteboard - 09/03/2012 12:40:29 PM
It is clear that Lan has a future in Mins viewings. One that to date we don't really have an answer for. Min had viewings related to Lan that thus far have not been clearly fulfilled ... I make no assessment of what the baby and towers mean, not that they are clearly things for Lan's future. I do not say that Lan will have a child or that the Towers will rise again, only that Min's viewing is symbolic of a future event involving Lan.


Or were in his future back in EOTW, but it could well be fulfilled.

IRRC, Min only had two viewings related to Lan (one of him, one of Nynaeve). There was baby with a sword in front and the ruined seven towers (which could be fulfilled or not, we'll know only after reading AMOL if it referred to something specific or to the raising of the Golden Crane in KOD), and there was Lan's ring that Min told Nynaeve was related to troubles but in the distant future. The one of Nynaeve is almost certainly fulfilled. The ring was how she got Lan an army. As for troubles, he's riding to fight TG....

A more recent viewing of Nynaeve has her kneeling in front of a corpse, in grief. Rand? Lan? Someone else? We'll see. The timing makes it just as likely that it is Rand as Lan. It could be about Rand, though there have been many already about him in a funeral bier (the first one where Nynaeve is involved, though - and we can't tell if it is contradictory (it's not Rand) or complementary (it provides the first evidence Nyaneve may be involved with the "is dead but lives" part, even though I still think this goes massively against certain themes in the series) to the all "three in a boat" variants, or Egwene's dream of a man on a narrow cot who is not dead yet and musn't die, but outside his funeral pyre is being built and some are mourning and others are cheering.). If it is about Lan, I guess it was intended that we more readily associated it with Rand's death.

After so many months near Nynaeve/Lan, and knowing Nynaeve's worries now that he's gone, Min normally would have come forward to reassure her if she saw anything hinting at happy events in their future. She must not have seen any children for the couple yet, for instance. Nynaeve's not pregnant, any such viewing would mean Lan and Nynaeve would be reunited. It doesn' sound like Min has seen anything with which she could alleviate Nynaeve's worries or give her some hope.

There are quite a few characters we know can't die, or at least very soon. Mat-Perrin-Rand-Egwene-Elayne all have a few prophecies about them still to be fulfilled. It's far less clear with Nynaeve-Lan, though it seems likely Nynaeve survives either Rand or Lan or both.

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So who thinks Elayne will die in aMoL? - 29/02/2012 04:02:07 AM 1884 Views
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Dying in childbirth would be totally lame - 29/02/2012 09:34:47 AM 980 Views
There is the one vision Min had of Aveinda where she was going to have 4? babies but it was odd *NM* - 29/02/2012 04:53:46 PM 470 Views
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Or does it? - 10/03/2012 06:21:53 PM 772 Views
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Ok... - 01/03/2012 03:23:11 AM 853 Views
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I disagree... - 01/03/2012 06:29:32 PM 994 Views
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No, I realize that - 05/03/2012 09:12:56 PM 807 Views
Re: No, I realize that - 06/03/2012 02:14:14 AM 951 Views
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Re: Ahhh. I had forgotten that particular detail - 07/03/2012 03:43:59 AM 806 Views
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Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives - 06/03/2012 01:47:08 AM 968 Views
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Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives - 06/03/2012 02:35:23 AM 901 Views
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Re: RJ says otherwise - 08/03/2012 04:53:42 AM 1004 Views
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Re: I kind of disagree - 08/03/2012 01:39:40 PM 905 Views
You misunderstand my point - 09/03/2012 05:31:09 AM 849 Views
Re: You misunderstand my point - 09/03/2012 12:40:29 PM 1209 Views
Re: I also get the feeling that RJ isn't going to kill off any main characters - 01/03/2012 03:10:35 PM 985 Views
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Hope or think? *NM* - 01/03/2012 06:30:58 PM 468 Views
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We have similar thought processes on this *NM* - 07/03/2012 01:47:39 PM 424 Views
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Have you read ToM? - 08/03/2012 07:52:46 AM 836 Views
Re: I don't see Singing playing any role in TG - 08/03/2012 02:07:31 PM 845 Views
I expect Rand to "die" - 05/03/2012 02:07:55 AM 758 Views

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