We have the example of the seals. Channellers were quite able to feel their evil and wrongness. We don't know for sure if this comes straight from the TP (though we know from Demandred the DO is struggling to break them and free himself) or from the Taint on saidin, but those are still objects that the OP "corrupted". The wrongness of the Shadowspawn is also TP-related and this too can be sensed. It sounds to me that to be sensed, the TP has to touch first something in Creation. There seems to be a "wrongness" effect to whatever the TP touches (the one exception we know of so far is the Chosen's Mark). It's the "source" and the weaves that cannot be sensed or seen by anyone but the one channeling them.
I don't think TP objects exist, personally. The dominant theme about the TP is that it corrupts, it doesn't create (I think it is in part due to the fact in order to create the TP would have to isolate its female and male halves, and instead it's pure chaos). It corrupts creatures, it corrupts flora, using it a lot makes a body rot. So far, we have no example of anything touched by the TP that doesn't rot/corrupts eventually.
Even for angreal/san'angreal, as I'm pretty much convinced they must be made with the two halves of the power, and what half is used for the "buffer" determines that it can be used only by the opposite gender. So I think angreal/san'angreal for the TP do not exist, while ter'angreal touched by the TP would get corrupted fast.
I don't think Mat's ter'angreal (and I don't rule out it's Finn made just because it's a OP object that Elayne could reproduce... let's remember those Finns were able to etch a OP-made blade with the inscription of their bargain with Mat (humans don't know how to do this - those blades are unalterable unless you use the OP), and they were able to alter that blade so that it could open a way out of Ghenji. This means they can create such "gateways" and we can't rule out they, not the AOL AS, made the two Doorway ter'angreal. It's pretty clear the Finns have advanced knowledge/technology and quite possibly have ways to use the OP. And I still have this hunch they're the ones who "knew the numbers of chaos" and long ago made the Portal Stones - RJ slipped in one of his answers and confirmed they have the ability to reach the "worlds of if".)
I don't think TP objects exist, personally. The dominant theme about the TP is that it corrupts, it doesn't create (I think it is in part due to the fact in order to create the TP would have to isolate its female and male halves, and instead it's pure chaos). It corrupts creatures, it corrupts flora, using it a lot makes a body rot. So far, we have no example of anything touched by the TP that doesn't rot/corrupts eventually.
Even for angreal/san'angreal, as I'm pretty much convinced they must be made with the two halves of the power, and what half is used for the "buffer" determines that it can be used only by the opposite gender. So I think angreal/san'angreal for the TP do not exist, while ter'angreal touched by the TP would get corrupted fast.
I don't think Mat's ter'angreal (and I don't rule out it's Finn made just because it's a OP object that Elayne could reproduce... let's remember those Finns were able to etch a OP-made blade with the inscription of their bargain with Mat (humans don't know how to do this - those blades are unalterable unless you use the OP), and they were able to alter that blade so that it could open a way out of Ghenji. This means they can create such "gateways" and we can't rule out they, not the AOL AS, made the two Doorway ter'angreal. It's pretty clear the Finns have advanced knowledge/technology and quite possibly have ways to use the OP. And I still have this hunch they're the ones who "knew the numbers of chaos" and long ago made the Portal Stones - RJ slipped in one of his answers and confirmed they have the ability to reach the "worlds of if".)
This message last edited by DomA on 08/03/2012 at 09:59:02 PM
What did happen to Lanfear?
23/02/2012 10:54:19 AM
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I thought Moiraine saw Moridin or somebody in there looking for Lanfear?
23/02/2012 01:00:25 PM
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Re: I thought Moiraine saw Moridin or somebody in there looking for Lanfear?
23/02/2012 02:14:05 PM
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do souls remain the same strength with each reincarnation though?
23/02/2012 05:45:40 PM
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We can only theorize
24/02/2012 08:14:49 AM
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The Forsaken aren't a great parameter to judge from
24/02/2012 04:10:35 PM
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Sanderson doesn't think this is the case
26/02/2012 12:47:26 AM
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I don't think Lanfear died in Finnland
27/02/2012 02:02:31 AM
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I assume this was meant to be a response to Sidious' original post *NM*
27/02/2012 02:18:09 AM
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All this could be true and could still have died at Finnland...
27/02/2012 04:40:50 AM
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Re: All this could be true and could still have died at Finnland...
28/02/2012 04:46:41 AM
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Why so?
28/02/2012 06:33:25 AM
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I pretty much agree
28/02/2012 07:15:26 AM
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WHen and where Lanfears original body died doesn't mean much to me
28/02/2012 02:01:00 PM
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Re: WHen and where Lanfears original body died doesn't mean much to me
28/02/2012 05:40:21 PM
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Perhaps ... But doesn't explain what they get out of killing her ... They have proven to be crafty
28/02/2012 07:17:21 PM
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Well...
28/02/2012 08:13:03 PM
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Wouldn't they have just kept her then or killed her right off the bat then?
28/02/2012 09:52:49 PM
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Re: Wouldn't they have just kept her then or killed her right off the bat then?
29/02/2012 11:28:10 AM
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Re: Wouldn't they have just kept her then or killed her right off the bat then?
01/03/2012 04:51:10 AM
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Pretty sure it was Slayer
23/02/2012 04:10:29 PM
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He's still a minion, and would have been acting on the Shadow's behalf
23/02/2012 04:56:21 PM
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I corrected you. Not Moridin. It was Slayer.
24/02/2012 08:07:17 AM
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I think it is clear enough...
23/02/2012 08:42:24 PM
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Or maybe he was not there to negotiate for her release, just get close to kill her for the soul-swap *NM*
23/02/2012 10:15:01 PM
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Or maybe that was the best deal he could make with them. *NM*
24/02/2012 12:17:06 AM
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always figured it was slayer who told the finns she wasn't the one he was lookin for *NM*
25/02/2012 10:15:55 PM
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Maybe they can only drain a fixed amount - and did so to both women equally...
24/02/2012 08:32:56 PM
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Seems convoluted to me
26/02/2012 12:44:18 AM
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I wonder if he traded a taste of the True Power?
29/02/2012 12:26:56 AM
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Now that is an interesting theory!
29/02/2012 05:42:22 AM
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Maybe they can use the TP
29/02/2012 02:43:07 PM
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Considering how they feel about anything dealing with the shadow,
29/02/2012 03:03:55 PM
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Why not? I believe RJ basically said they are so different from humans that we could not define
01/03/2012 04:54:40 AM
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Re: Considering how they feel about anything dealing with the shadow,
08/03/2012 09:28:52 PM
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The foxhead...
01/03/2012 05:19:13 AM
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Yes, but that doesn't mean an Aes Sedai made it.
01/03/2012 04:20:10 PM
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There are others that are just as effective though .. Nynaeve has one and so does Cadsuane
01/03/2012 04:53:46 PM
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My point was...
01/03/2012 05:34:34 PM
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What makes you think so?
01/03/2012 06:45:42 PM
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Re: What makes you think so?
01/03/2012 11:22:06 PM
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Re: What makes you think so?
02/03/2012 12:57:13 AM
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It depends....
08/03/2012 09:54:45 PM
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