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Re: I also think the flaw might be deliberate DomA Send a noteboard - 07/03/2012 04:11:21 AM
It's one of the few "mystical" things left unexplained. Nothing we've seen other channelers do even comes close to that.

Think about it- an impenetrable barrier, so strong that apparently even the Forsaken couldn't touch it, that was keyed to the reincarnated soul of someone who had been long dead and would not reincarnate for thousands of years.


I also find it weird that it's flawed- obviously they knew how, in the AoL, to make non-flawed sa'angreal. The best argument I could think of would be making it flawed like that was necessary, because it would force Rand to act in certain ways he might otherwise not, but it's still weird. Plus, WoT doesn't really have that kind of prophecy manipulation that you see in other books, like Sword of Truth, for example.

The flaw was either deliberate or it was unwittingly done but designed by the 'Pattern'. Considering it magnifies the taint alone, it is possible that no one knew of the flaw until the Breaking started.


That's kind of stating the obvious don't you think? How they could possibly know it magnified the effects of the Taint before saidin got tainted?

As for the magnification you're making a series of assumptions. Cadsuane doesn't even know what the True Power is. When she said it magnified the taint, she meant the effects of the taint on a channeller's mind, no more. Thenin an in an answer to a question about that angreal Moridin said he could use, Jordan said that angreal/san agreal made for the OP wouldn't work with the TP (so it was to use it to channel saidin Moridin could have a use for it). The flaw isn't mysterious let alone deliberate, Jordan explained quite well it's shabby manufacturing caused by the war conditions.

Finally, about Rand using the TP again, it sounds absurd that he would (remember the state of mind Rand had to be in to be able to embrace it.... It's the opposite of how he must be to face the DO...haven't you noticed how Rand's power and even its nature is magnified after he embraced the complete opposite of the state he was in when he touched the TP? ) but even more that Shai'tan would let him draw it again anyway, especially so that Rand could fight him. This is about as well reasonned as Lanfear's stupid belief that she could destroy the Creator with the OP. Whatever BS said obliquely not to confirm Shai'tan let Rand access the TP, Jordan flat out said access to the TP depends strictly on the DO letting you.
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What's so special about Callandor? - 06/03/2012 07:31:40 PM 2155 Views
Honestly, I'm more curious about the "Dragon-only" barrier that surrounded it - 06/03/2012 09:16:15 PM 1089 Views
I also think the flaw might be deliberate - 06/03/2012 09:56:02 PM 1163 Views
Re: I also think the flaw might be deliberate - 07/03/2012 04:11:21 AM 1224 Views
Re: I also think the flaw might be deliberate - 07/03/2012 10:31:39 AM 1059 Views
Re: I also think the flaw might be deliberate - 07/03/2012 10:55:56 PM 1088 Views
RJ addressed this ... I had a similar thought several years back and this quote was floated my way - 07/03/2012 04:18:01 AM 1113 Views
Hmm.... - 07/03/2012 01:50:07 PM 1039 Views
Very similar to what you are getting at as I recall - 07/03/2012 02:00:56 PM 918 Views
Using the True Power to win Tarmon Gai'don goes against every moral in the series. - 07/03/2012 07:00:02 AM 969 Views
actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 07/03/2012 10:36:03 AM 868 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 07/03/2012 06:02:48 PM 952 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 07/03/2012 06:18:16 PM 888 Views
If anything the Dark One WANTS Lews Therin to use the TP *NM* - 07/03/2012 09:43:20 PM 571 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 07/03/2012 11:38:56 PM 1071 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 10/03/2012 11:52:23 AM 1074 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 10/03/2012 06:40:00 PM 943 Views
Have to agree with you on this - 12/03/2012 01:17:06 AM 926 Views
Re: Have to agree with you on this - 12/03/2012 02:36:13 PM 900 Views
Fain has become so much more than human. We have no real sense of the limits of his power - 18/03/2012 11:21:54 PM 807 Views
Shai'tan is the opposite half of the Creator. - 19/03/2012 01:44:31 AM 790 Views
I actually don't see it that way - 19/03/2012 03:37:26 AM 956 Views
depends how you look at it - 19/03/2012 10:41:28 AM 1005 Views
Re: depends how you look at it - 19/03/2012 01:07:21 PM 737 Views
Re: depends how you look at it - 19/03/2012 08:12:17 PM 869 Views
Odds are you are correct - 19/03/2012 11:45:03 PM 731 Views
Re: depends how you look at it - 20/03/2012 12:51:48 PM 698 Views
The DO did not not destroy Mashadar alone - 19/03/2012 11:42:21 PM 764 Views
That's not correct. - 20/03/2012 01:55:05 AM 768 Views
Saidin and the True Power both touched Mashadar - 20/03/2012 01:11:17 PM 1029 Views
Re: Saidin and the True Power both touched Mashadar - 20/03/2012 04:27:33 PM 694 Views
Re: Saidin and the True Power both touched Mashadar - 20/03/2012 04:57:08 PM 1048 Views
You explantion is - 20/03/2012 06:17:52 PM 796 Views
Agreed *NM* - 19/03/2012 11:40:40 PM 399 Views
RJ Quote: - 19/03/2012 06:52:12 PM 756 Views
Exactly - 19/03/2012 08:54:22 PM 1059 Views
Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction - 19/03/2012 11:48:20 PM 746 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction - 20/03/2012 01:06:20 PM 766 Views
My point with imagination is simply that destruction only does 1 thing - 20/03/2012 01:14:55 PM 917 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction - 20/03/2012 04:35:17 PM 761 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction - 20/03/2012 04:59:13 PM 742 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction - 20/03/2012 08:57:35 PM 850 Views
Re: Personally I view it more as Creation v. Destruction - 21/03/2012 01:09:13 PM 790 Views
Yep . - 21/03/2012 04:51:15 PM 766 Views
Re: actually self-sacrifice is one of the Dragon's principle virtues - 14/03/2012 12:15:36 PM 879 Views
except the TP is not just a tool. - 14/03/2012 01:41:17 PM 866 Views
No, the Choedan Kal was a tool. - 14/03/2012 05:20:53 PM 675 Views
Sounds like the One Ring - 04/05/2012 03:55:01 PM 872 Views
I totally agree with you on both issues Ben - 07/03/2012 11:44:42 PM 1023 Views
No, I don't agree - 10/03/2012 12:11:37 PM 972 Views
That makes no sense... - 10/03/2012 09:21:19 PM 809 Views
Re: That makes no sense... - 11/03/2012 12:25:53 AM 809 Views
Name an existing well that has that much power, though. - 11/03/2012 01:11:40 AM 775 Views
He makes a good point though. - 11/03/2012 05:49:59 AM 803 Views
Yes, but... - 11/03/2012 06:17:25 AM 753 Views
Re: Yes, but... - 11/03/2012 06:47:43 PM 785 Views
I found a couple of quote - 12/03/2012 12:00:36 AM 970 Views
Yeah, I looked through Terez' quote database. - 12/03/2012 12:46:38 AM 793 Views
Re: That makes no sense... - 11/03/2012 08:54:11 AM 923 Views
Re: That makes no sense... - 12/03/2012 02:15:19 PM 995 Views
Re: No, I don't agree - 12/03/2012 01:49:10 PM 970 Views
How the Three can become One using the True Power...mindtraps of Moggy and Cyndane... - 12/03/2012 06:04:22 PM 863 Views
Whether it happens or not, it might explain the choice of mind trap victims - 13/03/2012 06:43:45 AM 967 Views
Re: Whether it happens or not, it might explain the choice of mind trap victims - 13/03/2012 05:19:21 PM 787 Views
That's what I meant - 18/03/2012 11:13:19 PM 903 Views

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