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Re: No, I realize that DomA Send a noteboard - 06/03/2012 02:14:14 AM
I'm just wondering if that's what the crown is referring to. Him leading that group of people. Broken kingdom/broken crown. Just a thought.


That's fairly unlikely, given that the Broken Crown is the name of the royal crown of Saldaea. As Perrin has a connection to it, I doubt Jordan would confuse matters by having the viewing refer to the crown of a vanished kingdom.

As Jim said, Perrin has officially given up on Manetheren and seems to intend to keep his word. Not only that, but he's negotiated a very public and official deal with Elayne and can't turn the TR into an independant Kingdom any time soon without forcing Elayne to declare war on him.

It's fairly late into "the last book". The mood of the moment is to form large political alliances that are "permanent", in the sense that they're not only to fight TG (if they will survive afterward is another question...). It long seemed like Jordan was grooming Perrin to become a neo-Hawkwing but 2/3 into AMOL (the end of TOM) he unveiled his plot twist and it now seems that it's Elayne he intended to form a kind of empire or federation (and eventually this will require some resolution vs the Seanchan - war or treaties etc. ). It seems to mean in the third Age, the Dragon's friend leads the AS, one of the Dragon's wives will be the central political ruler, and it makes it sounds likely that Aviendha rather than Rand will soon take the role of the leading figure of the Aiel as the Car'a'carn's wife (we should have seen this coming earlier, there was ample foreshadowing from Sevanna's ambitions of the power the WO who marries the Chief of chiefs will wield....). And then, Rand already announced he doesn't intend to be the Light's "general", which opens the door for Mat. LTT was forced to wear too many hats... military ruler, leader of the AS, he seems to have gained some political role above the regional rulers during the War of Shadow (possibly to coordinate the war effort), and though that is still mysterious, there is his tie to the Da'shain who were called Children of the Dragon. It sounds like this time around, Rand/LTT intends to devote himself completely to being the Creator's Champion, leaving the other responsabilities to others.



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So who thinks Elayne will die in aMoL? - 29/02/2012 04:02:07 AM 1966 Views
Given the various Foretellings and Min Viewings the only way Elayne can die - 29/02/2012 05:48:50 AM 1065 Views
Dying in childbirth would be totally lame - 29/02/2012 09:34:47 AM 1059 Views
There is the one vision Min had of Aveinda where she was going to have 4? babies but it was odd *NM* - 29/02/2012 04:53:46 PM 501 Views
That's nothing to do with Elayne - 29/02/2012 05:19:39 PM 1043 Views
Or does it? - 10/03/2012 06:21:53 PM 863 Views
She's already gone from Caemlyn at the timeof the attack, at the meeting in Merrilor - 29/02/2012 05:29:27 PM 1227 Views
Going to have to agree 100% *NM* - 29/02/2012 06:42:15 PM 560 Views
I also get the feeling that RJ isn't going to kill off any main characters - 29/02/2012 10:44:29 PM 885 Views
Ok... - 01/03/2012 03:23:11 AM 931 Views
practically speaking you're correct. But this is a fantasy novel with a pro-protagonist tone - 01/03/2012 04:24:38 PM 889 Views
I disagree... - 01/03/2012 06:29:32 PM 1070 Views
not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives - 02/03/2012 05:51:03 AM 1029 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives - 04/03/2012 06:46:12 PM 872 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives - 04/03/2012 07:32:31 PM 943 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives - 05/03/2012 01:54:49 AM 1005 Views
is there any chance that the broken crown could refer to Manethrean? (sp?) - 05/03/2012 02:10:17 AM 986 Views
Perrin bringing Manthrean back seems unlikely - 05/03/2012 04:28:57 PM 985 Views
No, I realize that - 05/03/2012 09:12:56 PM 877 Views
Re: No, I realize that - 06/03/2012 02:14:14 AM 1031 Views
Ahhh. I had forgotten that particular detail - 06/03/2012 02:45:28 PM 859 Views
Re: Ahhh. I had forgotten that particular detail - 07/03/2012 03:43:59 AM 881 Views
oh pllp. clearly I haven't read much lately - 07/03/2012 02:02:20 PM 1014 Views
- 09/03/2012 12:43:57 PM 865 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives - 06/03/2012 01:47:08 AM 1063 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives - 05/03/2012 01:51:46 AM 1132 Views
I think Lan will live just to spite the character *NM* - 05/03/2012 02:11:59 AM 549 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives - 06/03/2012 02:35:23 AM 972 Views
RJ says otherwise - 07/03/2012 02:08:23 PM 989 Views
Re: RJ says otherwise - 08/03/2012 04:53:42 AM 1083 Views
I kind of disagree - 08/03/2012 05:21:33 AM 1036 Views
Re: I kind of disagree - 08/03/2012 01:39:40 PM 984 Views
You misunderstand my point - 09/03/2012 05:31:09 AM 933 Views
Re: I also get the feeling that RJ isn't going to kill off any main characters - 01/03/2012 03:10:35 PM 1070 Views
I didn't know Naelson was a Darkfriend, or Tylin either. What about Jaim? - 02/03/2012 01:45:57 AM 1054 Views
they're not main characters either - 02/03/2012 05:58:13 AM 996 Views
I wouldn't even consider Morgase to be a MAIN character. - 02/03/2012 12:28:41 PM 996 Views
Verin is the most significant character to die that I recall - 01/03/2012 04:50:51 PM 988 Views
Hope or think? *NM* - 01/03/2012 06:30:58 PM 504 Views
Oh God I hope she does *NM* - 02/03/2012 01:48:46 AM 710 Views
i don't think she will....just hoping. *NM* - 04/03/2012 09:55:06 AM 625 Views
It's fairly doubtful - 04/03/2012 04:34:01 PM 1083 Views
Agreed. - 04/03/2012 06:37:25 PM 823 Views
Re: Agreed. - 04/03/2012 08:38:45 PM 970 Views
I expect Moiraine to be the second woman to link with Rand - 05/03/2012 02:08:44 AM 947 Views
I'm very suspicious of the whole "Callandor" theory.... - 06/03/2012 03:27:05 AM 1202 Views
I have wondered for a long time if the Ogier, Rand, Aiel and the Tinkers won't end up - 06/03/2012 04:04:13 AM 760 Views
Re: I have wondered for a long time if the Ogier, Rand, Aiel and the Tinkers won't end up - 06/03/2012 03:10:45 PM 1027 Views
We have similar thought processes on this *NM* - 07/03/2012 01:47:39 PM 460 Views
I don't see Singing playing any role in TG - 08/03/2012 05:08:24 AM 828 Views
Have you read ToM? - 08/03/2012 07:52:46 AM 926 Views
Re: I don't see Singing playing any role in TG - 08/03/2012 02:07:31 PM 927 Views
I expect Rand to "die" - 05/03/2012 02:07:55 AM 848 Views

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