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Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives Jim Send a noteboard - 05/03/2012 01:54:49 AM
That being the group that sets out from Emond's Field in tEotW, plus their significant others, with Gawyn being a possible exception. To be honest we know that most of them survive already, Nicola's Foretelling reveals that Rand and his ladies will survive TG, Min's vision of the broken crown around Perrin means he and Faile have to survive until she gets the Saldaean crown. RJ was planning on doing more novels with Mat and Tuon.

Which of Nicola's foretellings are you referring to? And Min's vision could come true early in aMoL if Tenobia dies.


Not to mention Perrin is not in any way heir to the throne and would be far more likely to get the baton of marshall-general if and when Faile gets the throne than to ever wear that crown himself. That viewing is thus most unlikely to refer directly to him as ruler, but to the link between him and the Broken Crown of Saldaea. The last book will tell us how close the link represented by the viewing will be. For all we know, it's already fulfilled by having Perrin marry an heir to the Broken Crown and isn't representing Faile becoming Queen at all.


I don't expect Perrin to ever wear a the Broken Crown, but I do think Faile will and once she does it will fulfill the vision. Though to be honest I guess it could be fulfilled just having Perrin marry her, though that seems pretty weak to me.
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So who thinks Elayne will die in aMoL? mogi67 - 29/02/2012 04:02:07 AM 1884 Views
Given the various Foretellings and Min Viewings the only way Elayne can die darius_sedai - 29/02/2012 05:48:50 AM 995 Views
Dying in childbirth would be totally lame Zeratul - 29/02/2012 09:34:47 AM 980 Views
There is the one vision Min had of Aveinda where she was going to have 4? babies but it was odd *NM* Nolan - 29/02/2012 04:53:46 PM 470 Views
That's nothing to do with Elayne Cannoli - 29/02/2012 05:19:39 PM 970 Views
Or does it? JasonD - 10/03/2012 06:21:53 PM 772 Views
She's already gone from Caemlyn at the timeof the attack, at the meeting in Merrilor Cannoli - 29/02/2012 05:29:27 PM 1146 Views
Going to have to agree 100% *NM* Myrdhyn - 29/02/2012 06:42:15 PM 528 Views
I also get the feeling that RJ isn't going to kill off any main characters LadyLorraine - 29/02/2012 10:44:29 PM 800 Views
Ok... fionwe1987 - 01/03/2012 03:23:11 AM 852 Views
practically speaking you're correct. But this is a fantasy novel with a pro-protagonist tone LadyLorraine - 01/03/2012 04:24:38 PM 814 Views
I disagree... fionwe1987 - 01/03/2012 06:29:32 PM 994 Views
not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives Jim - 02/03/2012 05:51:03 AM 943 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives fionwe1987 - 04/03/2012 06:46:12 PM 790 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives DomA - 04/03/2012 07:32:31 PM 856 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives Jim - 05/03/2012 01:54:49 AM 911 Views
is there any chance that the broken crown could refer to Manethrean? (sp?) LadyLorraine - 05/03/2012 02:10:17 AM 900 Views
Perrin bringing Manthrean back seems unlikely Jim - 05/03/2012 04:28:57 PM 900 Views
No, I realize that LadyLorraine - 05/03/2012 09:12:56 PM 806 Views
Re: No, I realize that DomA - 06/03/2012 02:14:14 AM 951 Views
Ahhh. I had forgotten that particular detail LadyLorraine - 06/03/2012 02:45:28 PM 782 Views
Re: Ahhh. I had forgotten that particular detail DomA - 07/03/2012 03:43:59 AM 806 Views
oh pllp. clearly I haven't read much lately LadyLorraine - 07/03/2012 02:02:20 PM 947 Views
DomA - 09/03/2012 12:43:57 PM 765 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives DomA - 06/03/2012 01:47:08 AM 968 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives Jim - 05/03/2012 01:51:46 AM 1046 Views
I think Lan will live just to spite the character *NM* LadyLorraine - 05/03/2012 02:11:59 AM 512 Views
Re: not everyone, but I'd bet the core group all survives DomA - 06/03/2012 02:35:23 AM 901 Views
RJ says otherwise darius_sedai - 07/03/2012 02:08:23 PM 911 Views
Re: RJ says otherwise DomA - 08/03/2012 04:53:42 AM 1004 Views
I kind of disagree Jim - 08/03/2012 05:21:33 AM 959 Views
Re: I kind of disagree DomA - 08/03/2012 01:39:40 PM 905 Views
You misunderstand my point darius_sedai - 09/03/2012 05:31:09 AM 849 Views
Re: You misunderstand my point DomA - 09/03/2012 12:40:29 PM 1208 Views
Agreed. For all we know the baby image could be Lan meeting the oath taken for him by raising darius_sedai - 09/03/2012 01:23:06 PM 805 Views
No one mourned or cheered when Dobraine was dying. *NM* fionwe1987 - 09/03/2012 04:12:39 PM 667 Views
Re: Agreed. For all we know the baby image could be Lan meeting the oath taken for him by raising DomA - 09/03/2012 07:18:41 PM 1068 Views
Re: I also get the feeling that RJ isn't going to kill off any main characters RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/03/2012 03:10:35 PM 985 Views
I didn't know Naelson was a Darkfriend, or Tylin either. What about Jaim? Hieshyn - 02/03/2012 01:45:57 AM 1012 Views
they're not main characters either Jim - 02/03/2012 05:58:13 AM 913 Views
I wouldn't even consider Morgase to be a MAIN character. Evil_Monkey - 02/03/2012 12:28:41 PM 939 Views
Yes. I am classifying Main Characters as Rand, Egwene, Elayne, Perrin, Mat, Avi, Min and Nynaeve. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/03/2012 05:42:58 PM 691 Views
Verin is the most significant character to die that I recall darius_sedai - 01/03/2012 04:50:51 PM 913 Views
Re: I also get the feeling that RJ isn't going to kill off any main characters Praziquantel - 02/03/2012 12:53:41 AM 828 Views
And you think she won't hop back to Caemlyn the moment word comes of the attack? *NM* fionwe1987 - 01/03/2012 03:22:11 AM 466 Views
No, she won't be able to weave the gateway and Rand won't let anyone make her one. *NM* Hieshyn - 02/03/2012 01:48:06 AM 598 Views
The smartass answer: Birgitte. But, despite all seeming evidence, I don't know why anyone would. *NM* Palatine - 01/03/2012 04:36:22 PM 573 Views
Hope or think? *NM* Anonymous2000 - 01/03/2012 06:30:58 PM 468 Views
Oh God I hope she does *NM* Hieshyn - 02/03/2012 01:48:46 AM 679 Views
i don't think she will....just hoping. *NM* moridin15 - 04/03/2012 09:55:06 AM 593 Views
It's fairly doubtful DomA - 04/03/2012 04:34:01 PM 1003 Views
Agreed. fionwe1987 - 04/03/2012 06:37:25 PM 736 Views
Re: Agreed. DomA - 04/03/2012 08:38:45 PM 884 Views
I expect Moiraine to be the second woman to link with Rand Jim - 05/03/2012 02:08:44 AM 865 Views
I'm very suspicious of the whole "Callandor" theory.... DomA - 06/03/2012 03:27:05 AM 1108 Views
I have wondered for a long time if the Ogier, Rand, Aiel and the Tinkers won't end up darius_sedai - 06/03/2012 04:04:13 AM 670 Views
Re: I have wondered for a long time if the Ogier, Rand, Aiel and the Tinkers won't end up DomA - 06/03/2012 03:10:45 PM 953 Views
We have similar thought processes on this *NM* darius_sedai - 07/03/2012 01:47:39 PM 423 Views
I don't see Singing playing any role in TG Jim - 08/03/2012 05:08:24 AM 760 Views
Have you read ToM? fionwe1987 - 08/03/2012 07:52:46 AM 836 Views
Re: I don't see Singing playing any role in TG DomA - 08/03/2012 02:07:31 PM 845 Views
I expect Rand to "die" Jim - 05/03/2012 02:07:55 AM 758 Views
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