Yes, absolutely. I remember saying this back when I first read the book.
Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 18/02/2012 11:44:19 PM
Also, one has to keep in mind that Elayne just removed some of the High Houses that serve as a counterweight to the monarch's power. I'm not sure if the new Cairhienin rulers now gain that authority, or if she has completely removed those votes from the pool, but either way the monarchy has just granted itself the rights to remove the lands of High Houses who oppose them, and with them their power to raise the new Queen in a succession war, or to serve as a check for her power.
As for the Two Rivers, it's worth noting that she also threatened to execute Perrin, thus achieving what Ishamael has spent most of the series trying to accomplish. This shouldn't be too much of a surprise, since her brother Gawyn had that whole vow to kill Rand, but at least Gawyn had the personal trauma to explain his irrational decision, whereas Elayne's is a calculated political point. She was willing to doom the world to preserve her political image.
Incidentally, am I the only one who finds it strange that in a novel written by an American, during this threat or revolution against a distant, irresponsible monarch we are expected to side with the monarch?
As for the Two Rivers, it's worth noting that she also threatened to execute Perrin, thus achieving what Ishamael has spent most of the series trying to accomplish. This shouldn't be too much of a surprise, since her brother Gawyn had that whole vow to kill Rand, but at least Gawyn had the personal trauma to explain his irrational decision, whereas Elayne's is a calculated political point. She was willing to doom the world to preserve her political image.
Incidentally, am I the only one who finds it strange that in a novel written by an American, during this threat or revolution against a distant, irresponsible monarch we are expected to side with the monarch?
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Bad Elayne! No biscuit!
18/02/2012 10:13:54 PM
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You are assigning your 21st century view onto people with totally different circumstances
18/02/2012 11:33:56 PM
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You are assigning your knee-jerk assumptions to my post
19/02/2012 03:29:02 AM
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As per usual you choose to assume the people of WoT have your belief system when you comment on the
19/02/2012 05:31:57 PM
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It has nothing to do with a specific system of morality, but basic natural law.
19/02/2012 11:26:13 PM
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Where were Mat and Rand when they found Domon? In a wilderness along the RIVER.
20/02/2012 12:40:38 AM
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Re: Where were Mat and Rand when they found Domon? In a wilderness along the RIVER.
22/02/2012 01:10:54 AM
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Just read the books. Including the BWB ... It spells it out for those who care to read.
22/02/2012 02:48:45 AM
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The Queen of Andor lost all authority over the Two Rivers when she failed to protect it. *NM*
25/03/2012 02:53:23 PM
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Which is why they elected their own lord
25/03/2012 06:25:31 PM
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Yes, absolutely. I remember saying this back when I first read the book.
18/02/2012 11:44:19 PM
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Re: Yes, absolutely. I remember saying this back when I first read the book.
20/02/2012 03:11:14 AM
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Re: Yes, absolutely. I remember saying this back when I first read the book.
20/02/2012 06:22:21 AM
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Re: Yes, absolutely. I remember saying this back when I first read the book.
22/02/2012 06:23:36 PM
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Re: Yes, absolutely. I remember saying this back when I first read the book.
22/02/2012 09:03:53 PM
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"Damn sister married the Pope instead of my chosen Lord Ohsoimportant"
25/03/2012 03:50:06 PM
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Okay, I admit it, there is no way I am reading such a long post about Elayne.....
19/02/2012 08:14:53 PM
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The Caraline treatment.
25/03/2012 02:41:12 PM
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Do you Colavaer Saighan? I don't recall Caraline having her lands and titles stripped
25/03/2012 10:44:57 PM
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I think she did an admirable job protecting Andor in very challenging circumstances.
11/05/2012 12:05:25 AM
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Re: I think she did an admirable job protecting Andor in very challenging circumstances.
11/05/2012 02:10:01 AM
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Re: I think she did an admirable job protecting Andor in very challenging circumstances.
24/05/2012 06:45:19 AM
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Generally, I think both her means AND ends were correct; reconciling them was the challenge.
30/05/2012 03:55:00 AM
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