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Re: Maybe, maybe not Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 15/02/2012 06:11:42 PM
RJ never really went into the OP defying properties of C. The fireballs are pure weaves of fire, no weave, no fire, no heat. We also do not know about the heat transferance properties of C. For all we know it could pass heat like tin foil, or be so resistant to it you could hold it in your hand while someone plays a palsma torch over it. We just don't know. Lightning might or might not be effective. C started as iron, but is it still ferrous? If not, just how perfect an insulator is it? It could be such a high value insulator that lighting will not strike it, again we just don't know.


I agree we can't know if lightning would work or not, but you're the one who asserted that cuendillar would be useful against channelers, so the burden of proof is on you. As for fireballs, heartstone does not break weaves, it's just invulnerable to them, and since as I've mentioned we know that cuendillar requires cracks in the armour, fire could easily seep through. Just because you're wearing something indestructible does not make you indestructible.

An interesting debate might be what would happen if someone wearing C armor got hit by balefire. Balefire is pure OP that burns you out of the pattern backwards, but C is immune to the OP. Would it just wash off you, or could (theoretically) a channeler use enough OP to burn far enough back to before you put it on, or before the armor was converted from iron...


It's much simpler than that. Again, while the armour is resistant to balefire, the person inside is not. We don't even know that cuendillar even deflects balefire, but even if it does, the armour remains full of cracks. For an analogy, a house may not be swept away by a flood, but people and objects inside are not therefore automatically safe.

My position is simple. C armor would not be hard to make, making it would not violate any of the oaths, and C armor is substantially better than normal armor. just how much better is something we can go round and round on because only RJ could have given a definitive answer; but he never did.


Actually,Cuendillar armour would be substantially difficult to make. A soldier wearing one would have a king's fortune on his back.
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Functional Cuendillar Armor: Possible or impossible? - 10/02/2012 04:45:34 PM 1485 Views
You posted this exact same question one year ago, with a lot of discussion - 10/02/2012 06:29:28 PM 947 Views
You busted him! I wonder why he would post it again... *NM* - 10/02/2012 07:25:47 PM 501 Views
I suppose I am on a... - 10/02/2012 11:00:47 PM 852 Views
No, you go back and re-read what everyone said. - 11/02/2012 11:02:47 PM 952 Views
We're actually losing them by the troves. My apologies. *NM* - 12/02/2012 02:52:01 AM 459 Views
I rest my case. - 10/05/2012 04:34:02 PM 841 Views
Re: You posted this exact same question one year ago, with a lot of discussion - 11/02/2012 01:37:27 PM 1037 Views
Agreed. - 11/02/2012 06:24:36 PM 832 Views
why not some plate armor. duh. *NM* - 12/02/2012 09:54:43 PM 497 Views
See? - 10/05/2012 04:35:25 PM 812 Views
Possible, but hard. - 11/02/2012 01:56:03 AM 956 Views
scale or plate armor would be quite easy *NM* - 11/02/2012 01:38:47 PM 427 Views
My thought was always about weapons. - 11/02/2012 06:31:45 AM 1013 Views
Re: My thought was always about weapons. - 12/02/2012 10:51:43 AM 882 Views
Re: My thought was always about weapons. - 14/02/2012 01:53:59 PM 853 Views
Should be perfectly feasible - 11/02/2012 12:28:47 PM 850 Views
Exactly - 11/02/2012 01:53:24 PM 884 Views
Certainly possible, but given the effort most women have to put toward changing even a small item - 12/02/2012 05:10:35 AM 933 Views
Ummm, Warders... - 14/02/2012 01:39:23 PM 778 Views
How would Cuendillar armour help against channelers? - 14/02/2012 07:58:58 PM 858 Views
It can not be directly effected by the OP - 14/02/2012 09:08:57 PM 739 Views
some simple ideas for defeating warders armoured such. - 14/02/2012 09:52:41 PM 875 Views
Re: some simple ideas for defeating warders armoured such. - 14/02/2012 10:54:26 PM 725 Views
which way is it? - 15/02/2012 04:14:41 AM 745 Views
Actually I'd call the Seanchan tactically inferior to the White Tower in using the power - 15/02/2012 01:48:55 PM 855 Views
That's really not my point. - 15/02/2012 03:21:15 PM 736 Views
My point is - 15/02/2012 03:52:43 PM 724 Views
Agree on all points *NM* - 15/02/2012 07:06:09 PM 573 Views
I never said that they could not be stopped - 15/02/2012 01:58:41 PM 841 Views
I really think you're over-estimating how difficult it would be. - 15/02/2012 03:22:44 PM 786 Views
Not nesecarrily - 15/02/2012 04:01:45 PM 791 Views
You just said that most of their tactics are indirect. - 15/02/2012 05:44:22 PM 898 Views
..and you are creating new tactics - 15/02/2012 06:32:02 PM 731 Views
*shrug* I don't see it as some world-shaking action - 15/02/2012 08:47:40 PM 750 Views
Not accurate - 15/02/2012 03:54:00 PM 849 Views
You are thinking too far inside the box - 15/02/2012 04:23:28 PM 823 Views
I disagree - 15/02/2012 04:43:33 PM 784 Views
If armor is of no benefit... - 15/02/2012 06:19:30 PM 692 Views
Missing my point ... Cuendillar armor is impractical not useless - 15/02/2012 07:00:48 PM 800 Views
nope - 15/02/2012 07:21:03 PM 713 Views
*Shrug* - 15/02/2012 08:28:48 PM 842 Views
Re: *Shrug* - 15/02/2012 09:07:24 PM 1009 Views
Re: It can not be directly effected by the OP - 15/02/2012 02:37:40 AM 729 Views
Maybe, maybe not - 15/02/2012 02:12:59 PM 712 Views
Re: Maybe, maybe not - 15/02/2012 06:11:42 PM 864 Views
I'll happily amend my initial statement to "maybe even challeling ones" - 15/02/2012 07:03:48 PM 745 Views
Fair enough. - 16/02/2012 02:08:19 AM 746 Views
what a lot of people are forgetting with their suggestions of plate armor... - 13/02/2012 02:36:50 PM 916 Views
Your understanding of how plate armor functions is in error - 14/02/2012 01:45:37 PM 732 Views
I believe AND I was hoping you would go into the physics of it :p - 14/02/2012 11:01:18 PM 721 Views
here ya go, I still skipped almost all of the math though. - 15/02/2012 03:00:09 PM 785 Views
Two things: *NM* - 16/02/2012 04:03:52 PM 463 Views

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