RJ never really went into the OP defying properties of C. The fireballs are pure weaves of fire, no weave, no fire, no heat. We also do not know about the heat transferance properties of C. For all we know it could pass heat like tin foil, or be so resistant to it you could hold it in your hand while someone plays a palsma torch over it. We just don't know. Lightning might or might not be effective. C started as iron, but is it still ferrous? If not, just how perfect an insulator is it? It could be such a high value insulator that lighting will not strike it, again we just don't know.
I agree we can't know if lightning would work or not, but you're the one who asserted that cuendillar would be useful against channelers, so the burden of proof is on you. As for fireballs, heartstone does not break weaves, it's just invulnerable to them, and since as I've mentioned we know that cuendillar requires cracks in the armour, fire could easily seep through. Just because you're wearing something indestructible does not make you indestructible.
An interesting debate might be what would happen if someone wearing C armor got hit by balefire. Balefire is pure OP that burns you out of the pattern backwards, but C is immune to the OP. Would it just wash off you, or could (theoretically) a channeler use enough OP to burn far enough back to before you put it on, or before the armor was converted from iron...
It's much simpler than that. Again, while the armour is resistant to balefire, the person inside is not. We don't even know that cuendillar even deflects balefire, but even if it does, the armour remains full of cracks. For an analogy, a house may not be swept away by a flood, but people and objects inside are not therefore automatically safe.
My position is simple. C armor would not be hard to make, making it would not violate any of the oaths, and C armor is substantially better than normal armor. just how much better is something we can go round and round on because only RJ could have given a definitive answer; but he never did.
Actually,Cuendillar armour would be substantially difficult to make. A soldier wearing one would have a king's fortune on his back.
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Functional Cuendillar Armor: Possible or impossible?
10/02/2012 04:45:34 PM
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You posted this exact same question one year ago, with a lot of discussion
10/02/2012 06:29:28 PM
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I suppose I am on a...
10/02/2012 11:00:47 PM
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Re: You posted this exact same question one year ago, with a lot of discussion
10/02/2012 11:04:33 PM
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Re: You posted this exact same question one year ago, with a lot of discussion
11/02/2012 01:37:27 PM
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My thought was always about weapons.
11/02/2012 06:31:45 AM
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Certainly possible, but given the effort most women have to put toward changing even a small item
12/02/2012 05:10:35 AM
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Ummm, Warders...
14/02/2012 01:39:23 PM
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How would Cuendillar armour help against channelers?
14/02/2012 07:58:58 PM
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It can not be directly effected by the OP
14/02/2012 09:08:57 PM
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some simple ideas for defeating warders armoured such.
14/02/2012 09:52:41 PM
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Re: some simple ideas for defeating warders armoured such.
14/02/2012 10:54:26 PM
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which way is it?
15/02/2012 04:14:41 AM
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Actually I'd call the Seanchan tactically inferior to the White Tower in using the power
15/02/2012 01:48:55 PM
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That's really not my point.
15/02/2012 03:21:15 PM
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I never said that they could not be stopped
15/02/2012 01:58:41 PM
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I really think you're over-estimating how difficult it would be.
15/02/2012 03:22:44 PM
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Not nesecarrily
15/02/2012 04:01:45 PM
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You just said that most of their tactics are indirect.
15/02/2012 05:44:22 PM
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..and you are creating new tactics
15/02/2012 06:32:02 PM
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*shrug* I don't see it as some world-shaking action
15/02/2012 08:47:40 PM
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But it is brand new, and if you're digging holes earth-shaking seems discriptive
15/02/2012 09:14:12 PM
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Not accurate
15/02/2012 03:54:00 PM
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You are thinking too far inside the box
15/02/2012 04:23:28 PM
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I disagree
15/02/2012 04:43:33 PM
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If armor is of no benefit...
15/02/2012 06:19:30 PM
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Missing my point ... Cuendillar armor is impractical not useless
15/02/2012 07:00:48 PM
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nope
15/02/2012 07:21:03 PM
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*Shrug*
15/02/2012 08:28:48 PM
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Re: *Shrug*
15/02/2012 09:07:24 PM
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No way they could pull off what you are talking about with current tech
16/02/2012 01:55:19 AM
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Re: No way they could pull off what you are talking about with current tech
16/02/2012 03:23:34 PM
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Re: It can not be directly effected by the OP
15/02/2012 02:37:40 AM
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Maybe, maybe not
15/02/2012 02:12:59 PM
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Re: Maybe, maybe not
15/02/2012 06:11:42 PM
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I'll happily amend my initial statement to "maybe even challeling ones"
15/02/2012 07:03:48 PM
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what a lot of people are forgetting with their suggestions of plate armor...
13/02/2012 02:36:50 PM
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Your understanding of how plate armor functions is in error
14/02/2012 01:45:37 PM
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I believe AND I was hoping you would go into the physics of it :p
14/02/2012 11:01:18 PM
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