Dude, seriously, look into the Edit Message function.
Cannoli Send a noteboard - 04/12/2011 03:50:43 AM
So Rand claims that the difference between him and Lews Therin, and why the Shadow could not corrupt or break him, is “because of Tam, because of the people around me. (Min), Perrin, Nynaeve, Mat, Aviendha, Elayne, Moiraine.”
Notice any conspicuous omissions from that list? A certain someone he has known almost as long as Perrin, Mat & Nynaeve? A certain someone who has spent more time with him over the course of the series than even the mother of his children or his two closest friends? I’m just saying, that it’s funny how my long-standing view of who is and isn’t a good influence is corroborated by the champion of the Light at his ultimate peak of wisdom and transcendent insight. In addition, Uber-Rand’s first act upon his apotheosis is to set into motion a strategy dependent entirely on the presumption of Egwene’s reflexive opposition and automatic hostility to him or to a decisive step to defeat the Dark One.
Rand reaches a point of near divine awareness and judgment, and his brain goes right to the Cannoli-place. Think upon that, ye mortals, and despair.
To be honest, i didn't notice this when i read the book. Nice catch!
however, i think he disagrees with how the aei sedai believe they must act. He tells Nynaeve not to let them ruin her. Also, as we know, Egwene always jumps into things with her whole heart, and therefore, becomes something he doesn't really believe is the right way to live. So, its not that she wasn't a good influence.
Also, I don't believe he presumes taht she will reflexively oppose him... its just that he knows taht most people will reject the idea (i dunno... seems like back when LTT's plan was rejected) and who better to set to people gather than Egwene? Someone who works her hardest to do what she believes to be good and right? Just because he has reached a "divine awareness" (i like that wording
)... doesn't mean he doesn't still understand the game of houses, and doesn't mean he will completely depend on his ta'veern nature to do what he feels must be done. yes.. but i don't htink Rand expected her to approach her like a childhood friend... nor did I
eer... change that second her to him
Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
*MySmiley*
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
*MySmiley*
It's good to be right. Especially when you see Rand list his good influences in ToM
- 30/11/2011 03:24:55 PM
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ToM shows that Rand has caught on to who Egwene is
- 30/11/2011 03:49:34 PM
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That's the really appalling part - it is so ingrained in her, that you can induce such specific acts
- 30/11/2011 04:38:07 PM
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This is clearly a Sandersonism...
- 01/12/2011 02:35:39 AM
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Of course it is...
- 01/12/2011 11:03:49 AM
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- 01/12/2011 11:03:49 AM
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Well, she DID try to deflate his ego, but then she punished those who returned the favor to her.
- 01/12/2011 03:33:11 PM
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Can't think of a single time that Egwene was a good friend to Rand *NM*
- 01/12/2011 07:16:39 AM
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- 01/12/2011 01:26:49 PM
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In tGH he was still immature and reflexively giving props to his love interest *NM*
- 01/12/2011 03:04:17 PM
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Re: In tGH he was still immature and reflexively giving props to his love interest
- 03/12/2011 02:39:47 AM
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Re: In tGH he was still immature and reflexively giving props to his love interest
- 04/12/2011 03:36:10 AM
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Re: In tGH he was still immature and reflexively giving props to his love interest
- 04/12/2011 08:05:32 AM
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God, I can't stand Rand fanboys/girls. Some facts, please.
- 02/12/2011 06:12:14 PM
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I can't stand people who don't know stuff but act like they do.
- 04/12/2011 03:23:47 AM
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Self-contradiction, much?
- 04/12/2011 08:20:00 AM
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No, just dealing with a fickle hypocrite.
- 05/12/2011 04:27:32 AM
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Re: No, just dealing with a fickle hypocrite.
- 05/12/2011 10:56:17 AM
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Except somehow, Egwene always ends up opposing him on the wrong stuff
- 05/12/2011 03:55:50 PM
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- 03/12/2011 12:42:02 AM
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You know, most people don't need the Game of Houses to get their childhood friends to help
- 04/12/2011 03:24:43 AM
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Re: You know, most people don't need the Game of Houses to get their childhood friends to help
- 04/12/2011 03:34:45 AM
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Re: You know, most people don't need the Game of Houses to get their childhood friends to help
- 04/12/2011 03:36:09 AM
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That's because he (and you, and I) had 18 years/11 books of her bitchery as a reference point
- 04/12/2011 03:37:16 AM
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- 04/12/2011 03:38:22 AM
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Dude, seriously, look into the Edit Message function.
- 04/12/2011 03:50:43 AM
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- 06/12/2011 04:43:43 PM
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