All the awesomest moments come from the same bad guy.
Narg Send a noteboard - 21/11/2011 09:20:05 PM
Dark Rand. The real Forsaken have been so lame overall, that perhaps the most impressive Forsaken moment is Graendal escaping Rand. And all she did was escape. We don't have any truly awesome moments from them.
So I will say the awesomest Forsaken moments were in fact done by Dark Rand, whom I will classify as a Forsaken for that brief awesome period during TGS. Afterall, he channeled the TP and was basically doing the work of the Dark One. But for a brief moment we got to see what a real villain is like. Awesomely powerful, extremely intimidating, cruel, cunning, and ruthless.
Dark Rand channeling the TP to destroy Semi at the last moment was AWESOME. Dark Rand asking Cadsuane if she thought that the pattern would kill her if Dark Rand simply wished it to be so, followed by his promise that the next time he saw her face he would kill her was AWESOME. Dark Rand's plan and actions to kill Graendal(though failed) including using Amshalan and balefiring the entire complex and everybody in it were AWESOME. Dark Rand was by the far the best evil character the books have seen. He died too soon.
As miserable as ToM was, looking back I have to admit that TGS was pretty good for a book written by one other than RJ.
Lanfear would have had an AWESOME moment if she had shielded Egwene, Avi, and Rand and then killed Egwene and Avi right before Rand's eyes. Instead, depsite being in a fit of rage, she inexplicably manages to do no real harm to any of the main characters even though she lashes out at them while she is so beside herself that she had just skinned Karede alive and turned his skin into a balloon. Stuff like this pisses me off. Along those lines, another awful moment was Ishy sword fighting Rand in the sky (without a sword, no less). The only way Ishy could have been stupider was to challenge Rand to a sheep shearing contest, winner gets to kill the loser.
"I know that I am vastly more powerful than you in the OP, but I am going to risk my life by sword fighting you instead of just killing you or capturing you with the OP or TP in any of countless ways. I realize that you have been training with the sword and that I, by all accounts, am not particularly skilled in hand to hand combat. But dueling with you in the sky just seems like a good idea."
Semi murdering the imperial family (and presumably their Damane)in Seandar would have been an awesome moment if we had seen some of it on screen.
I don't dare get my hopes up that Demandred will have some AWESOME moments in AMOL.
I realize I raised the standard from "cool" in your post to "awesome" in mine. If the standard is "cool", then there are plenty of those moments, including the ones you mentioned.
So I will say the awesomest Forsaken moments were in fact done by Dark Rand, whom I will classify as a Forsaken for that brief awesome period during TGS. Afterall, he channeled the TP and was basically doing the work of the Dark One. But for a brief moment we got to see what a real villain is like. Awesomely powerful, extremely intimidating, cruel, cunning, and ruthless.
Dark Rand channeling the TP to destroy Semi at the last moment was AWESOME. Dark Rand asking Cadsuane if she thought that the pattern would kill her if Dark Rand simply wished it to be so, followed by his promise that the next time he saw her face he would kill her was AWESOME. Dark Rand's plan and actions to kill Graendal(though failed) including using Amshalan and balefiring the entire complex and everybody in it were AWESOME. Dark Rand was by the far the best evil character the books have seen. He died too soon.
As miserable as ToM was, looking back I have to admit that TGS was pretty good for a book written by one other than RJ.
Lanfear would have had an AWESOME moment if she had shielded Egwene, Avi, and Rand and then killed Egwene and Avi right before Rand's eyes. Instead, depsite being in a fit of rage, she inexplicably manages to do no real harm to any of the main characters even though she lashes out at them while she is so beside herself that she had just skinned Karede alive and turned his skin into a balloon. Stuff like this pisses me off. Along those lines, another awful moment was Ishy sword fighting Rand in the sky (without a sword, no less). The only way Ishy could have been stupider was to challenge Rand to a sheep shearing contest, winner gets to kill the loser.
"I know that I am vastly more powerful than you in the OP, but I am going to risk my life by sword fighting you instead of just killing you or capturing you with the OP or TP in any of countless ways. I realize that you have been training with the sword and that I, by all accounts, am not particularly skilled in hand to hand combat. But dueling with you in the sky just seems like a good idea."
Semi murdering the imperial family (and presumably their Damane)in Seandar would have been an awesome moment if we had seen some of it on screen.
I don't dare get my hopes up that Demandred will have some AWESOME moments in AMOL.
I realize I raised the standard from "cool" in your post to "awesome" in mine. If the standard is "cool", then there are plenty of those moments, including the ones you mentioned.
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This message last edited by Narg on 21/11/2011 at 09:27:04 PM
Cool Forsaken moments
21/11/2011 02:49:46 PM
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Moggy torturing Nynaeve, getting shot, and afterwards squashing Liandrin (Moggy's my favourite..) *NM*
21/11/2011 03:49:50 PM
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That's an oxymoron
21/11/2011 06:41:34 PM
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If you disagree with his choice moments then...
21/11/2011 07:48:04 PM
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My top 5 are all different from your list...
21/11/2011 08:51:43 PM
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Except...
29/11/2011 06:08:37 AM
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My point is that the ILLUSION of Forsaken greatness reflected the REALITY that should have been
29/11/2011 01:58:21 PM
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All the awesomest moments come from the same bad guy.
21/11/2011 09:20:05 PM
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You sort of have a point, that ties in to why the Forsaken suck
22/11/2011 03:37:14 PM
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Some thoughts.
22/11/2011 06:30:04 PM
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Re: Some thoughts.
22/11/2011 09:11:50 PM
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Re: Some thoughts.
22/11/2011 11:09:28 PM
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Any Cadsuane moment. *NM*
24/11/2011 04:45:59 AM
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Oh please! My mother is more evil by 10 A.M. than Cadsuane gets up to all day
24/11/2011 11:05:02 AM
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Re: Oh please! My mother is more evil by 10 A.M. than Cadsuane gets up to all day
30/11/2011 05:29:09 AM
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