Re: Yes - I said Altara is effectively south as they don't control or patrol most of their lands.
RugbyPlayingAshaman Send a noteboard - 14/11/2011 05:44:42 PM
Evidently, you were incorrect. As far as not holding northern Altara, that is irrelevant, it is still nominally part of Altara. For comparison's sake, Andor only nominally holds anything west of Whitebridge, which does not stop Andor from treating the raising of a lord in the Two Rivers as an actual rebellion. Borders actually do matter. If Andor or Murandy or Ghealdan tried to seize that area, that might not only give the monarchy the outside threat it needs to extend its influence over its own country, but it would also draw the attention of those nations' enemies who would rush to defend Altara to stymie the expansion of those countries.
If Andor were to cross Altara's borders to "defend" the road against the Seanchan, then that would be an invasion of Altara and an act of war against the Seanchan. And probably futile - as mentioned earlier, Andor itself hardly holds its own territory west of the Arinelle, and most of the Altaran territory being discussed is also west of that river.
If Andor were to cross Altara's borders to "defend" the road against the Seanchan, then that would be an invasion of Altara and an act of war against the Seanchan. And probably futile - as mentioned earlier, Andor itself hardly holds its own territory west of the Arinelle, and most of the Altaran territory being discussed is also west of that river.
I'm not going to deny you are technically right but this was a point that was brought up in the story - Tuon had promised Beslan she would secure the rest of the country, since the rulership had effectively been reduced to Ebou Dar and immediate surrounding lands before then.
Hey, all I said was that the eastern road out of Ghealdan went through Altara. You said it didn't unless they followed its southern course. If you want to redefine the word "country" so that your statement becomes true, you are free to do so, but I would advise you to explain that redefinition beforehand, because the territory of a country is typically defined by its internationally accepted borders, and that's what most people will assume you mean.
I elaborated on this in my second reply to you when I said most of Altara's power was concentrated along the coast.
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Ghealdan needs a road
04/11/2011 07:05:21 AM
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Ghealdan does have a road to the east.
04/11/2011 02:37:38 PM
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I wonder if they'll realize they can use their explosives for road work... *NM*
04/11/2011 02:49:05 PM
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I think his point is that road goes through Seachan held northern Altara. *NM*
04/11/2011 06:10:17 PM
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Only if they stay on a southern course. Altara is actually farther south.
04/11/2011 07:43:01 PM
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Not according to the map you provided.
04/11/2011 09:01:50 PM
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Yes it does, actually.
09/11/2011 07:45:25 PM
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No, no it doesn't.
10/11/2011 03:16:19 AM
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I think you are incorrect, but not b/c of map - because of what the projection of force would need
10/11/2011 03:07:43 PM
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Re: I think you are incorrect, but not b/c of map ...
10/11/2011 06:05:07 PM
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Yes, Andor is in a bad position.
11/11/2011 10:05:09 PM
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Re: Yes, Andor is in a bad position.
12/11/2011 04:08:40 AM
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The really atypical atrocity in the Seanchan's conquests...
12/11/2011 06:55:33 AM
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Re: The really atypical atrocity in the Seanchan's conquests...
16/11/2011 09:30:09 PM
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Oh, is that what you think happened?
17/11/2011 06:04:12 AM
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Re: Oh, is that what you think happened?
18/11/2011 06:57:53 PM
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I said the road goes through northern Altara, and you disagreed, claiming Altara was further south.
10/11/2011 06:12:11 PM
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Yes - I said Altara is effectively south as they don't control or patrol most of their lands.
11/11/2011 09:58:41 PM
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Re: Yes - I said Altara is effectively south as they don't control or patrol most of their lands.
11/11/2011 11:28:40 PM
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Re: Yes - I said Altara is effectively south as they don't control or patrol most of their lands.
14/11/2011 05:44:42 PM
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A road north would be useless at this point.
05/11/2011 04:23:11 PM
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Choices of Ghealdan
07/11/2011 05:55:38 AM
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Re: Choices of Ghealdan
07/11/2011 03:38:03 PM
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A couple points
08/11/2011 12:31:57 PM
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